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State of state: No optimism for this area

January 10, 2013

No matter how upbeat state Gov. Andrew Cuomo seemed on Wednesday regarding New York’s future, northern Chautauqua County residents cannot share in the enthusiasm....

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Christopher

Jan-10-13 6:15 AM

None of the power and money to remain in power exists one mile west of Albany. The politicians running New York think the border is at the Hudson River. Economically, it's true. This state lives on Wall Street and NYC money. We're a drop in the bucket.

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ReasonableCitizen

Jan-10-13 7:01 AM

Agreed Christopher, he doesn't care about anything West of Albany. It's a very sad situation that some parts of the state are flourishing and they don't give a **** about Western NY. I'm afraid that that will never change. We have no voice at the State level or our Federal Senators as well. In the end they only worry about NYC. We are the forgotten ones and we do have so much to offer to bad they just don't care.

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DarkStar

Jan-10-13 8:23 AM

So basically the father put NYS into the grave and his son is going to shovel the dirt over us.

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Dcronlg

Jan-10-13 8:28 AM

What the clueless OBSERVER board doesnt tell you -- nor do some of the posters here -- is all about the success of Cuomo's Regional Economic Council plan, which has been in effect for at least two years.

The WNY region -- 1 of 10 regions -- has done quite well in receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in state aid for strategic business investments. We are usually considered to be one of the three ongoing top regions.

The problem is the outright LACK of leadership -- political and business -- from this county as it relates to economic development. Its not Cuomo's fault -- he has hundreds of millions of $$$s he wants to hand out for thoughtful, sound economic planning and investments -- but there has been nothing but crickets chirping from this county. And from the OBSERVER board.

Oh, another thing -- almost all the school districts in this county receive 3/4ths of the annual budgets $s from Albany. You only pay 25% for your kid's education? Sounds like a deal...

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ProudToBeUnAmerican

Jan-10-13 8:38 AM

Maybe if the lazy liberals on welfare got off their butts and looked for a job, any job, we could reduce taxes for the wealthy. I guarantee you that a bounty of jobs would appear virtually overnight. It's not rocket surgery people!

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DarkStar

Jan-10-13 8:55 AM

" almost all the school districts in this county receive 3/4ths of the annual budgets $s from Albany. You only pay 25% for your kid's education?"

Gee I didn't know that Albany created money out of thin air!

Funny how so many try to convince people that money from Albany or Washington is "free" money.

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teacherteacher

Jan-10-13 9:07 AM

Those that wanted 1. a more friendly welfare state, 2. giving into every union demand (civil service and teachers) driving up property taxes and 3. waiting for government (local and state) to make every move for them instead of letting the people build companies are finally seeing what happens with their type of thinking.

Years will come and go and this area will grow again, because of the assets and the business people who will return. It just takes time, keep the faith.

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optimistAMONGSTpessimists

Jan-10-13 9:33 AM

waaaaah, all this area is good for is complaining, whining, and aging individuals (and beliefs!)- you wonder why all the young people are leaving, jobs are only a small reason...

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Dcronlg

Jan-10-13 12:12 PM

Proud: there are 11,000 unemployed folks in this county and only 200 openings. Given your incredible imagination,just where do you believe these so-called missing 10,800 jobs will come from...Hmmmm?

Btw -- 70% of the latest food stamp recipient increase came from states and congressional districts which are solidly GOP/conservative...all those lazy Republican/conservatives...er, oops...liberals.

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ProudToBeUnAmerican

Jan-10-13 2:19 PM

True Republicans do not go on welfare, nor do they collect social security. They may vote Republican, they may even register as Republicans, but they are RINO's, and they are not welcome under the big tent of the GOP. Keep sending us your money RINO's, and keep voting against your own best interests, and above all, stay ignorant!

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DarkStar

Jan-10-13 3:02 PM

ProudToBeUnAmerican,

Wow, what are you smoking?

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Dcronlg

Jan-10-13 5:22 PM

Proud: "True Republican"??? (bwahahahahaha...) A true republican doesnt take a dime from the government? You'd better talk to Karl Rove, bud.

In the meantime, tea parties are for little girls with imaginary friends.

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Bandit

Jan-11-13 9:13 AM

"The problem is the outright LACK of leadership -- political and business -- from this county as it relates to economic development. Its not Cuomo's fault -- he has hundreds of millions of $$$s he wants to hand out for thoughtful, sound economic planning and investments.."

Okay this may be a foray into Bizarro World but Dcrolg is partially correct. Leadership is lacking, all we seem to recieve from our professional vote getters is more rhetoric. Where Dcronlg lost me was at the point that Cuomo has hundreds of millions of $$$ he wants to hand out. If Cuomo is handing out that much cabbage I will bet (at the new lakefront casino!) that those $$$ came from taxpayers and not out of his personal trust fund. Isn't it funny how grateful people seem when you hand them back some of the money you took from them?

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PhilJulian

Jan-11-13 9:28 AM

The biggest issues facing upstate New York are unfunded state mandates and duplication of services in government and education. I watched the governor's entire speech and he carefully avoided any mention of mandates or consolidation. He is in fact a true liberal totally under the control of public sector unions. He knows he may be considered for the Democratic nomination for president in 2016 and he also nknows he will need union contributions to make that happen. Let's face it folks, state government is totally corrupt and there is no hope fr upstate New York unless we find the leaders willing to promote reform without any help from Albany. Albany knows where the problems lie. They just lack the political guts to fix the problems.

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hadenough

Jan-11-13 10:12 AM

People have you forgotten that Dunkirks Mayor attended this adress. So it will only be a matter of time before the money starts rolling in. Also, with all the networking the mayor said he was going to do we can't lose. So sit back relax and wait for the jobs to start rolling in.

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Christopher

Jan-11-13 10:47 AM

Monetary aid from Albany is a huge joke being played on upstate New York. No amount of grants, aid whatever, will begin to make up for the ridiculous unfunded mandates heaped upon localities from Albany. Yes, we "only" pay 25% of our school budget. That doesn't mean that the 25% is affordable, does it? It also doesn't change the fact that large percentages of that 25% are unfunded mandates. Governor Cuomo is a very typical New York City area politician. He's basically a NYC Liberal in the mode of Nelson Rockefeller, throwing just enough bones to the right to APPEAR as something else. Rockefeller ran as a Republican, but sure didn't spend or act like one. Cuomo is using his current stature as a starting point for a 2016 run for President. I said as much before he was elected.

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DarkStar

Jan-11-13 12:53 PM

Christopher,

Exactly, just like his father.

If you listened to what Mario said you would have throught he was a fiscal conservative but the moment you started looking at what he did you would know he was no such thing!

One quote about him I'll never forget was from Mario's campaign manager when he was messing around with running for President. When a reporter asked him something along the lines of "His polices have destroyed NY, why would anyone want him in the Whitehouse?"

His manager stated "his policies didn't work in NY because companies and workers were free to move to other states, but if he's elected President that choice will no longer be an option!"

It would also be funny if it weren't for all the damage his policies did to NY, and more specifically Chautauqua County.

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jessy7366

Jan-11-13 2:04 PM

The politicians don't come to Chautauqua County,they just want your vote!!! They don't give a hoot about us,they don't care we are losing jobs by the hundreds,the only time we hear from them is election time. Every election cycle you hear about,we need more jobs,we need to cut taxes,we need to cut utility bills,but does it ever happen? Same old BS from Andy,Cathy,and the County Executive,i forgot his name!!

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jessy7366

Jan-11-13 7:11 PM

The money goes where the votes are,and that's not Chautauqua County..

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FedUpTaxpayer

Jan-12-13 10:49 AM

November a few years ago, a published report came out listing the top ten declining metropolitan areas in the USA. I think New Orleans was #1 due to the hurricane damage, but Buffalo was #4, Rochester #7 and Syracuse #9 all in a straight line towards Albany. Cities in PA, OH and MI were also on the list. All over taxed areas where it was to burdensome to conduct business. Now, consider Chautauqua County where you only have two years to pay your property taxes or risk foreclosure, down from three years and those taxes are some of the highest in the country. Who in their right mind would risk investing capitol to start a business here. Most small business make it or break it in the first years of start up. NY State stacked the odds against them. High taxes = no jobs and that is why we are in decline. The Cassadaga Elementary school is going to close and be sold off. Why? Because two adults working full time cannot afford to raise a family in Chautauqua County any more Unless on Welfare.

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Marcia

Jan-12-13 8:24 PM

Funny how over the last two years the republicans were praising Cuomo and his rating were in the sky because he stuck it to the public employees. Years without raises, insurance went up,lower pensions. What happened? All of a sudden he is in their hands? Don't tell them because they can't stand his policies.

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