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Edwards wants to know who’s in favor of selling County Home

January 16, 2013

MAYVILLE — Residents of Chautauqua County may soon know officially where their legislator stands on the sale of the County Home. County Executive Greg Edwards wants to know, too....

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rosebud

Jan-16-13 7:09 AM

Most people think it might be better to sell to someone local. Do the lease with Absolute. Not sure why you think we should go out if State for a buyer.. Or even go to Assisted living to make it more profitable.

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bulldog10

Jan-16-13 7:27 AM

I am!

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 7:34 AM

While I favor selling the Home why wasn't there a vote to see if there was interest in selling the home before a bunch of time and effort went into negotiating a sale?

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teacherteacher

Jan-16-13 7:38 AM

rosebud, do you know anyone "local" that has 16.5 million dollars?

Most folks are trying to get out of NYS, if someone from outside NYS wants to come in and invest, WELCOME THEM WITH OPEN ARMS.

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DKexpat

Jan-16-13 7:39 AM

Agree with DarkStar - Edwards is doing it backwards. First, garner enough 'yes' votes to sell the home, then vote on whom to sell it to.

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judeye

Jan-16-13 8:25 AM

Against the sale.

My local legislator has been against the sale as well, though he has made it clear he might change his mind to sell.

The numbers Edwards is stating are once again very misleading. This is a great concern to me that our County Executive would not be upfront and clear with the numbers. He seems to misrepresent them as a way to push forward on what he wants..which in this case is sale of the Home.

This misrepresentation was mentioned clearly in the study we just paid to have done on the sale of the Home. Hope everyone has read that study by now. Why have not the suggestions to cut costs and increase revenues explored?

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judeye

Jan-16-13 8:31 AM

Agree with Dkexpat and Darkstar..are not these very votes backwards? Should they not vote on whether to sell or not first, then if it is to sell, on a potential buyer?

By the way Dkexpat...I did use FOIA to get info on the gas well. I now have to go to Mayville and go through a file of papers to find out 1. who authorized the drilling 2. at what cost 3. what company did the drilling 4. why it was never connected.

Seems to me that information should be easily located and every legislator should have it on hand as they discuss this sale. But apparently that is not the way they do things in this county. Kinda like me having to use FOIA just to get the figures on the number of people on cash assistance in our county. Silly me, thought as a taxpayer this information would be readily available.

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Marcia

Jan-16-13 8:32 AM

Why has Edwards totally ignored the study done and done nothing to implement the suggestions that could save the home? He was always intent on selling it. It is very unclear if Altitude is going to operate the home properly, or run it into the ground and ignore services, as they have done in other states. As far as assisted living, that is outlawed for county institutions in NYS. Pretty sure a lot of lobbying by the nursing home industry went into that law.

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DKexpat

Jan-16-13 8:39 AM

Judeye, I'd be interested in the gas well information - - it seems like the County is trying to bury a mistake that cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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FredoniaFred

Jan-16-13 8:45 AM

Marcia and others, if you are going to continue spreading these false statements, please stop posting. The CCH has implemented many cost savings measures outlined in the CGR report and expect around $500K in yearly operational savings. Altitude Health has purchased 5 nursing homes in the last few years and turned every one of them from a poor home into a top notch facility.

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Snotziman

Jan-16-13 8:52 AM

Those against selling the home are grasping at anything they can to stop a sale. Misinformation about the sale and the potential purchaser is rampant. Some legislators are now claiming that they don't have enough time to read the contract to make a decision. Others are claiming that the county attorney should not negotiate the contract but instead a paid outsider.(Our tax dollars). Some claim that the CCH is earning money and don't consider the IGT funds to be tax dollars. Sell the home.

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DarkStar

Jan-16-13 9:15 AM

Snotziman,

Yeah, my favorite the claim that the Home isn't loosing money, but they ignore the fact that this is only because it's recieving millions of tax dollars each year.

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DunkirkRFD

Jan-16-13 9:18 AM

Why should the government be allowed to compete with private enterprise on any level? Should the government be in the automobile business or the hardware business? Should NYS open a clothing store? Many good companies offer nursing home care without being a drain on the taxpayer. Sell the County Home.

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PhilJulian

Jan-16-13 9:45 AM

This issue raises a very fundalemtal question. Should government be providing services that can be done cheaper and better by the private sector? The same question can be raised for trash collection, tree trimming, road maintenance, and pretty much every service provided by government with the possible exception of fire protection and law enforcement. There was a time when public employees were cost-effective but their unions have changed all that. Maybe it's time to re-think the way services are delivered.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 9:47 AM

Age carries with it only one promise according to the word of the Lord. That when we are old we will receive the respect, dignity and honor that is due us. That someone will care and want to return the love and care that was given so long ago to others. It is the Golden Rule in effect. They now want others to do unto them what they have done unto others.

Remember - growing old is not a disease or a woe to humanity. It is our right. It is a privilege allowed by God. It is an opportunity to be useful and productive a little longer in the service of our family and of our God. Using the elderly as pawns in a money game is against Gods word.It is our responsibility. Private Homes care nothing but only making money.Leave the home alone.It belongs to the people not a snake.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 9:49 AM

What is it you sell the home zealots dont understand?..I will run this by you one more time...Private facilities do not have to accept anyone if they dont want too,they cherry pick and prioritize cash paying applicants first,then cherry pick the applicants who will make the most money for them with the least amount of care...Which means a loved one or friend and their families or yourself probably will be placed miles,even out of state...The Home accepts everyone,to lose this option would be tragic...I have been thru this scenario twice already,and am going thru it again with another family member...Its not fun,its not pretty and its disgusting to play around with peoples lives all for the sake of money...The Home is the last bastion of safety and hope for all of us in this County,yet you people want to give it all away..Shame on all of you..Why do you pray to God,he doesnt like people like you...

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 9:51 AM

Foothills Rehabilitation Center had 12 deficiencies reported from the facilities state inspection of april 2012.They attained only a 2 star rating for quality measures.

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Myview

Jan-16-13 9:54 AM

Yep read the report page 65 says "...even though the Home does generate a net surplus—mixing the Enterprise Fund with IGT matches and indirect cost transfers—we must return to the earlier reality that this bottom line only becomes possible because of the investment by the County in the IGT matches. Thus, for the County Home itself to generate a small net surplus over the past five years, the County General Fund and ultimately the taxpayer needed to provide the match dollars to leverage the IGT payments. To generate County Home surpluses, or any realistic possibility of such surpluses in the future, there will always need to be some level of County taxpayer contribution as the investment needed to leverage the IGT payments..."

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 9:55 AM

I suggest you people re-watch the video of Mr.Rothners inquisition.It is un-edited and speaks for itself.Mr.Rothner can not guarantee everyone will be accepted as a patient,he can not guarantee the Alzheimer unit will remain.He can not guarantee all jobs and employees will be retained. Watch him squirm and be vocal as Ms.Cornell reads a message to him from a contact she has in Chicago concerning his reputation.Tell tale signs of a liar. Mr.Rothners only concern is making money,not about quality care.Quit BSing the people Mr.Edwards!....

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:02 AM

.Mr.Rothner does not even know how many facilities he owns.The only thing he is sure of is that he is married and has children.He also stated he does not personally get involved with some of his facilities but leaves the operations in the hands of the facilities administrators. Why is there no mention of a rape that occurred in one of his Homes?.Why is it not mentioned,that Mr.Rothner worked for his father,and still does?.As of late 2011 Avi was Director of operations and vice president of Hunter management,his fathers entity,which is rated the worst in the state of Illinois. My opinion and conclusion?.The man is a slick greedy businessman,whos bad rep far outweighs his so called merits.There is more to the story than meets the eye,and you people are fools to believe otherwise.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:06 AM

February 07, 2012 8:26 pm • By Jamar Younger, Arizona Daily Star

Photo courtesy of the Tucson Police Department. Enlarge Photo

Tucson police are looking for an elderly man who walked out of a midtown rehabilitation center.

Gilbert S. Sanchez, 86, was last seen Sunday before he left the Foothills Rehabilitation Center, 2250 N. Craycroft Road, according to a Tucson Police Department news release.

Sanchez left the center between 11:30 a.m. and noon.

He suffers from heart and kidney conditions, and has a tendency to confuse easily, police said.

Sanchez is described as 5-feet-6 inches, 140 pounds with gray hair and brown eyes.

He was last seen wearing a white baseball hat, brown jacket and tan slacks.

The man wears a medical "wander" bracelet on one of his wrists and uses a walker to get around.

He doesn't have family in the Tucson area, but may have friends in Rio Rico and Nogales.

Anyone with information is asked to call 911 or 88-CRIME

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:11 AM

.The majority of nursing home residents can not take care of themselves,they can not be placed in an a assisted living,assisted living meaning the only care they get is they are made sure they get their medication....How can a person with Dementia or Alzheimer's go about their daily lives without extra care?....The County Home has a state of the art Alzheimer's unit,but the prospective buyer offered no guarantee he would keep it,and also said he can not guarantee all applicants would be accepted....This is not acceptable!....

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teacherteacher

Jan-16-13 10:21 AM

The county home was rated 2 out of 5 stars by CMS and ranked 392 out of 631 NYS nursing homes.

The average county home employee earns $48,236 per year.

Page 13 of the report says the home's employee average benefits equeals $59.70 per resident per day compared to the regional market value of 30.69. That is twice the average.

County home employees take far too many sick days.

Have you ever been to the home, most of those employees could care less about the people. Bells going off, nurses and employees talking at their stations not taking care of the needs of the people.

Sell the home and let someone who cares take control of it.

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:33 AM

Mr.Edwards and the rest of you who want the Home privatized are only concerned about money...Never is there any mention about quality of care....Shame on all of you....Sorry,taxes will never go down no matter what is cut or sold...Believing so is delusional...You want to talk about money?...Lets talk about 2 Airports that are useless,lets talk about a $450,000 gas well thats never been used,lets talk about cost saving measures never implemented from a $80,000 report and a report done in 2009 by Mr.Nazzaro...Lets talk about a welfare program that runs rampant funded by your tax dollars...The Home?...Well worth the $6-$15 a year to insure quality of care will not be compromised!!..

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SonnyB

Jan-16-13 10:48 AM

teacherteacher...I think you are full of it..Sell the home and let someone who cares take control of it?..The only concern of Mr.Rothner is making money!...Quality of care is not his priority..His track record speaks for itself,along with the rest of his family..As of 2011, Rothner was still vice-president and director of operations for his fathers entity Hunter Management..He had many years to disassociate himself from his father,but never did...But cries foul when any mention of his relationship with his father is mentioned..The man is a liar!...

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