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Council ratifies PBA contract

January 23, 2013

It’s unanimous, the city of Dunkirk Police Benevo-lent Association members have a new contract. Com-mon Council approved the deal, covering the period from Jan. 1, 2012 to De....

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commentor

Jan-23-13 8:16 AM

Stupidity at it's best!!!!

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hadenough

Jan-23-13 8:43 AM

Exactly. What does this do? Nothing. The police will just work overtime to make up the difference. quite a smart deal on the police side. And the cities side? Well you can answer this.

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rumblefish

Jan-23-13 9:04 AM

when something looks to good to be true,usually it is,(3) theories on new contract come into play(1) union was afraid to go to arbitration(2) a gigantic rise in overtime,(3) city attorney is a amazing negotiator,the future will provide the answer next budget time

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PhilJulian

Jan-23-13 9:16 AM

Interesting to see them praising each other for successfully raiding the peoples pocket books one more time. I wonder how many in the private sector get longevity pay. The bottom line is tha the cost of government goes up even at a time when the tax base is shrinking. Unions rule, people leave and the city goes down the drain a little faster.

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HaveANiceDay

Jan-23-13 9:22 AM

Wait, You make them pay more for their health insurance and at the same time give them $900 more in flexible spending.......for HEALTH CARE COSTS!!! Am I missing something here???? Wow!!

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HaveANiceDay

Jan-23-13 9:26 AM

hadenough, you are 100% correct on the overtime. It's a game. Young guys call in sick, old guys take the shift to pad their final average salary for retirement. When the young guys get older the cycle repeats. Scamming the public while we just sit back and take it. Where's Makuch to complain about this fleecing of the taxpayers??

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bulldog10

Jan-23-13 10:07 AM

They should be happy they have a job, forget about any new benefits.

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baseball

Jan-23-13 10:13 AM

Arbitration always benefits the Unions, they would probably gotten a minimum of 3% each year of the contract, plus the flex and longevity! If I had read correctly, the Police budget did NOT go over budget, while the Fire Dept. went way over budget on Overtime, where is the complaint on the Fire Union?????

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rumblefish

Jan-23-13 11:12 AM

baseball,where was it published that the fire department went over budget and the police and other unions did not? it is a well know that this tactic is used by unions to pad salaries and pensions,city officals look the other way,other wise how can a 22 million dollar budget be justified

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baseball

Jan-23-13 12:20 PM

Awhile back, in the observer, they had to do a money transfer to the fire dept, because the ot budget was used up! The stuff is published!

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HaveANiceDay

Jan-23-13 2:04 PM

Baseball, The Firemen are just as bad as the cops when it comes to the padding of retirement pension with overtime. New York State could eliminate this problem by only giving pensions based on the CONTRACTUAL SALARY rather than the salary plus overtime. It would save New York taxpayers HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars per year.

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baseball

Jan-23-13 3:23 PM

Maybe so have, but the Police budget was within budget, not so for the Fire Dept. So how can people say that the cops are abusing ot, when they are within their budget?????????

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jamesamuscato

Jan-23-13 4:24 PM

Baseball:Look at the over all budget of both the Police and Fire for the year 2012. The police budget was $3,186,015.89. The Fire's budget was $1,923,238.93. A difference of $1,262,776.90. These were the adjusted amounts as of the date Nov. 21, 2012 when the 2013 budget was adopted. When you look at the total amount adjusted for each Department you will see that the Police were over by $31,580.80 and the Fire was over by $31,799.00. You have to look at the whole picture.

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rumblefish

Jan-23-13 4:40 PM

Jim makes a point,sad news is with latest contract,the trend will be to abuse the over time even more to compensate for no raises,now when that is spread across all the union contracts in future,22 million to run the city will be way back in the rear view mirror,but council will continue to pat themselves on their collective backs,it in a word pathetic,just pathetic.......

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hadenough

Jan-23-13 5:28 PM

Gentlemen. The latest figures released for the police department in Dunkirk, I believe there were two individuals that made over $90,000. Yes. $90,000. How in the*****can this be justified? In a city with less that 12,000 resident and a smaller number of taxpayer. Disgusting. The council needs a reality check.

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PhilJulian

Jan-23-13 6:47 PM

Sometimes it's hard to tell who are the cops and who are the robbers!! These people are supposed to be public servants- THEY WORK FOR US BUT THEIR INCOME WHICH COMES FROM OUR HIDES IS TWO TO THREE TIMES THE INCOME OF THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER. Something has gone dramitically wrong but I can't blame the city employees, it's human nature to take all that you can legally get. It's the mayor and city officials who are approving those contracts. What a bunch of idiots and they praise each other for getting a new contract. Maybe what is needed is a union of taxpayers. As individuals we have no power. As an organized group who knows what might be accomplished.

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225522

Jan-23-13 8:55 PM

Well, from reading the paper the city needs a good police force. Question is: How much can a shrinking city afford and how much is spending that does not directly contribute to public safety.

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baseball

Jan-25-13 5:12 PM

James, you change the numbers, just because your son is a paid firefighter/driver! The Police was not over budget, Fire was and quite a bit had to be transferred to the fire ot budget, that is where the real racket to the city is, the fire ot!

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