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‘Compromise’ for common goals

February 17, 2013

By ROBERTA KELLER I have been a faithful observer of all political activity for many years of my lif....

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Regelski

Feb-24-13 12:43 PM

joew: to avoid confusion, the results I report are international, not within the US which continues to under-perform internationally. If any readers want a real shock, Google PISA and consult America's standing.

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Regelski

Feb-24-13 12:40 PM

joew: as is so often the case, you are ignorant of the facts. In this case, a field in which I have the evidence. FACT: in the international PISA tests of the OECD (in which the US performs usually below average for the world), those countries that have effective pre-school programs score significantly higher than those countries (like us) that don't. Some of this evidence is recent, since the PISA process (look it up) has recently started to accumulate data beyond raw test scores, including demographic data, in this case, about pre-schooling. I'm sure this will upset you, but Obama's recent proposals are in agreement with the evidence. You, on the other hand, while entitled to your opinion, are not entitled to your facts (to paraphrase a former US senator from NY). Preschooling, done well (not babysitting) is a worthwhile investment.

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1Laona

Feb-23-13 11:47 AM

A local bus from the Dunkirk/Fredonia area will be leaving for the protest against the NY SAFE ACT in Albany on 2/28/13.$55 a seat,call 672-6210 for details.

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joew

Feb-19-13 8:54 AM

Mike-in case you missed it there was a study done by HHS that shows that kids in preschool are no better academically than their peers who did not attend preschool.That report was just recently released. More wasted money coming your way.

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MikeDavis

Feb-18-13 11:59 PM

Tom, I swear you see and say almost the same thing every time someone doesn't agree with you. Steiner is an extreme example, to be sure, but you really are getting quite predictable. Well, except for this " ideologically pre-determined ideology " I have to admit, that's some impressive wordsmithing right there. You learn to take Steiner with a grain of salt, or as comic relief. Once in a while he has a gem, but most of the time it's more like a physcotic break combined with automatic writing...then posted.

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MikeDavis

Feb-18-13 11:51 PM

Judeye I have to say I told you so...The right compromised on the tax increases. The left said they would show the cuts that they are willing to give. Then Obama rolls out a nation wide government pre-school plan proposal? Who's going to pay for that? The taxes were to pay down the deficit, he's already planning how to create more government spending. When are the compromises from the left coming? Compromise is a necessary thing, but just when can the country expect to see this administrations willingness to do that? I haven't seen it yet.

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1Laona

Feb-18-13 7:43 PM

Judeye is unavailable,during her absence Regulateski will be carrying the freight for the far-left.

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MikeDavis

Feb-18-13 2:37 PM

How about lowering the corporate tax rate to be more in line with the international rates that led them out of the country? Allow the off shore capital back into the country with a one time "amnesty" amount of eighteen percent, ten if it the money is invested in creating manufacturing jobs.

Stop foreign aid to countries proven to be anti-American. Why help fund their attacks?

Put a flat tax into effect. Write offs graduated to income, inflation taken into account after the initial enactment.

Use a few billion to either buy the pharmacology industry or start a new competitor and put it under a combination government/private Board of Governors. A pill in Africa costing 45 cents shouldn't cost an American hundreds of dollars.

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Regelski

Feb-18-13 1:25 PM

Steiner: I see the usual right-wing insults of anyone who would promote conciliation, reason, and cooperation. The article is well-written (with some caveats--look it up) with the best of intent to communicate with others. Your response, and others of your ilk, give no signs of any interest in "communication" other than to impress your ideologically pre-determined ideology to the crowd. Imagine, for a moment that this was a face-to-face discussion? If you would be so dismissive of other options shows me that you're contributing to the divisiveness in our society. We need to talk. Your position is preaching to the choir. It may make you feel good in confirming your already entrenched conclusions, but is not how democracy was intended by the Founders. Your attitude is is anti-American because demagogic (look it up).

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joew

Feb-18-13 11:31 AM

Judeye-I'm all for closing the tax loopholes and also I think everyone should pay their fair share. One question if I may-why is it that some people who pay no taxes are awarded a refund?

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joew

Feb-18-13 11:24 AM

Judeye-deficit reduction sounds great,where is the budget required by law from the Senate? Haven't seen one for 4 years now.

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joew

Feb-18-13 11:20 AM

Judeye-tell me about this jobs bill and what it would entail?

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judeye

Feb-18-13 9:05 AM

joew...most of the issues can have a compromise. It is time that the good of our Country is put ahead of politics..of all political views.

Jobs Bill..is one that I would love to see come to the floor for discussion, debate, maybe amendments...and then passed. Good grief..we need jobs..and this is a good bill to help promote job creation...and yet they have refused to permit it to even come up for discussion. To me, this is SHAMEFUL.

How about deficit reduction? COMPROMISE...that would include BOTH cuts in spending...AND...increases in revenue.

Many things our Congress should be discussing, debating, and compromising on....but instead they just went on another vacation.

Why do we pay them so much money for doing such little work?

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joew

Feb-18-13 7:59 AM

What is one major issue that should be compromised on and what would be the compromise?

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ProudToBeUnAmerican

Feb-17-13 5:04 PM

The Tea Party says no compromise, even if it is good for America. Hey, if it makes Obama and the Democrats look bad, it makes them look good. Brilliant!

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judeye

Feb-17-13 4:46 PM

rdnewt..????

"cloture was invoked 63 times in 2009 and 2010, which isn’t just the most ever, it’s more than the sum total of instances from 1919 through 1982. That’s not a typo."

And you think they are the same? Please cite where the Dems did more to halt our government..filibuster everything...document your claims that they both have EQUALLY stalled and put up road blocks.

I will look forward to reading it.

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rdnewt

Feb-17-13 1:32 PM

Huh, funny how the left did not use this tactic when the Republicans were in office. "Compromise" and "stop the arguing" and "work together to get something accomplished" are buzzwords and phrases that mean that "don't argue with us, we are in charge, do what we want or we'll cry". It is like dealing with kids who don't get their own way. There needs to be argument and debate in politics. This STOPS THINGS FROM GETTING DONE that will hurt us. Every time one of these people in Washington opens their mouths, we owe more money. Why should we encourage them to get things done, we can't afford it!

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1Laona

Feb-17-13 9:58 AM

Please remember after the group hug to check your wallet.

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judeye

Feb-17-13 8:01 AM

Excellent article Roberta..addressing one of the most important issues in the operation of our government right now...working together...as ONE.

Whoever is out there promoting the idea that if we disagree or have different views on specific issues, somehow we become enemies. That is dead wrong.

Our Country was based on debates, discussions, fights over issues all that in the end resulted in COMPROMISE after compromise resulting in our Constitution.

However, it appears these days more politicians are trying to make a name for themselves rather than working for the good of the Country.

It is time for ALL of us, from all political views to tell the politicians loudly and clearly...Stop the Division and Get to Work. Work for the Good of our Country and ALL of its citizens.

Thank You for the reminder. Hope our politicians will listen. Our democracy and country depend on it.

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Steiner

Feb-17-13 7:39 AM

Roberta, you used all the neat buzzwords and phrases !You forgot climate change and green sustainable energy ! I was almost weeping tears of joy. Compromise, global position, reduce the deficit, empowerment. unfortunatley they mean nothing. We spent more on defense in the 60's.Stimulated ourselves out of a recession ? Huh ? Unemployment is stubbornly high . Success Roberta claims. Entitlemnts are killing us. Compromise( leave philosophies behind) is a code word for the repubs to say yessir democrat. Universal gain ? Not if you are rich as that is greed. It was a huge together moment article, but not much else.

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Christopher

Feb-17-13 6:06 AM

You have identified the one issue above all others that is burying the America we used to be.

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