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Gun law brings ‘radical’ thoughts

February 20, 2013

The expression “It’s gonna be 1776 all over again” has replaced “Pry my gun from my cold dead hands” as the mantra of gun zealots....

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shaver58

Mar-16-13 2:06 PM

The same fda that allowed mosanto to push growth hormones on our cattle and never studied how it would effect the consumer and called it safe? Check the time line on the obesity epidemic there is a direct correlation! the same fda that is now going to let the dairy industry to put artificial sweetener in the dairy products even though it has been proven to cause health problems from headaches to cancer. If you don't think it's about confiscation your an idiot! check out the un arms treaty that obama wants to sign! Do you still trust your government? Or do you need more evidence?

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1Laona

Mar-13-13 11:24 AM

Regulateski SE,didn't your Mom tell you not to make faces?If you keep sneering your face is going to get stuck that way and that's no way to go through life son.I hope you didn't teach that "to the children".

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Regelski

Mar-12-13 12:26 PM

Mike: If in your educated view you think that Wall Street Journal is liberal, then you're not worth talking to. It's the mouthpiece of the 1% and even they worry about the fraying of American values at the altar of "the market." Catch up. You claim to be educated. In what, by whom, to what end? Answer: your own self-aggrandizement. No mention in your messages about "the common good," only the God of Self and your various hatreds.

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Regelski

Mar-12-13 12:26 PM

Mike: If in your educated view you think that Wall Street Journal is liberal, then you're not worth talking to. It's the mouthpiece of the 1% and even they worry about the fraying of American values at the altar of "the market." Catch up. You claim to be educated. In what, by whom, to what end? Answer: your own self-aggrandizement. No mention in your messages about "the common good," only the God of Self and your various hatreds.

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MikeDavis

Mar-11-13 1:05 PM

LOL...you cite the three most liberal "news" outlets in the country and say that's the only reputable source of news? Thanks for the laugh, I really needed it.

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MikeDavis

Mar-11-13 1:03 PM

Tom what about the mercury in those new environmentally "friendly" bulbs? The FDA allowed the genetically engineered corn to be foisted on the American people. Europe and Asia said no thanks, we don't think it's safe. That's two examples of watching out for the people by this government you trust so much. And why is your primary argument now that any and everyone that disagrees with you is unhappy? Could it be you are starting to doubt your own point of view and that is starting to make you unhappy?

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MikeDavis

Mar-11-13 12:58 PM

Google it and read about her agenda, then tell me again that the ultimate goal isn't confiscation.

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MikeDavis

Mar-11-13 12:56 PM

Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), a member of the Democratic Party’s leadership in the House of Representatives, suggested to Jason Mattera at a Feb. 13 women’s rights rally that plans for an assault weapons ban and private-sales background checks were only the beginning of a broader gun control agenda extending to handguns as well.

Schakowsky evidently did not recognize Mattera, a conservative video journalist and senior investigative reporter for Talk Radio Network, who infamously confronted Vice President Joe Biden in the Capitol. (Mattera introduced himself to Schakowsky by name but did not indicate that he was filming or that he is conservative.) She spoke to Mattera as if he were a fellow gun control enthusiast--and Mattera played along, eliciting answers about Schakowsky’s enthusiasm for gun control.

“We want everything on the table,” Schakowsky told Mattera. “This is a moment of opportunity. There’s no question about it.”

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American

Mar-11-13 12:43 AM

"Daniel Okrent, wrote an opinion piece in which he said that The New York Times did have a liberal bias in coverage" " The New York Times has not endorsed a Republican for president since Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1956" Yes everyone run right out and read this "unbiased rag" and get all the news the left wants you to see.

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Regelski

Mar-10-13 12:35 PM

HOW STUPID: being censored by the Observer's algorithms for PC use and, apparently, the sin of citing other (far more reputable) sources of news. That's part of the problem, if you don't read the NYTimes, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post (and watch Pox exclusively) you have no idea what the rest of the world is thinking. Anyone still interested in this (including my favorite adversaries) will research this according to ****nytimes**** for 3/10 under US politics. I can't wait for the entertainment of the wretched right's freak-out that gun owners might be 'libs'. How sweet.

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Regelski

Mar-10-13 12:20 PM

If there are any open-minded, independent of ideology, readers left following this 'forum', see: ***********nytimes****/2013/03/10/us/gun-owners-arent-always-gun-lovers.html?ref=us&_r=0. As I suspected, many gun owners are uncomfortable with the 'arming' of the community. I'm sure the story will result in attacks by the usual bottom dwellers about 'libs' and other simplistic caricatures of those in favor of reason in gun regulation. But it is heartening to know that not all gun owners follow the gospel of the NRA, and among them are enlightened people who are worried about the 'arms race' in our neighborhoods. Read, in the same source, the parallel story about the massive decline in gun ownership in recent years, with more guns going to more homes that already have guns. How many do you need to protect you from . . . . what? Crime is declining in the US and one reason for the decline is the lack of feeling a need to defend one's castle. Rural ******** are in a shrinking minori

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Regelski

Mar-09-13 12:13 PM

(cont) Ripley Resident: how well have you managed your own economy? Why do you bother us with your unhappy blather? Where are your facts for any of your ideological beliefs? Clearly you are an outsider to the American way of open and civil communication about our differences. You must feel really put upon by society, your anger is so strong. and anti-social. I'll bet you get lots of reinforcement in your local bar and from other right wing detractors of all that America has stood fo. If you're a vet, and I really respect all of them for their service, you've tied your donkey to the wrong tree: your position is not what Americans died for. It's called "democracy" and freedom of speech. You abuse the latter but are paranoid about those who would ask for reasonable protection from gun regulation.

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Regelski

Mar-09-13 12:04 PM

Riple resident: the FDA protects, for example, against our food sources. Good luck with what you eat if the FDA doesn't exist. I only wish it would regulated better. Light bulbs are now regulated (by government law (democracy), much to your dismay) against being a burden on individuals (the new light bulbs cost more, but are cheaper to use over time) and the environment. You probably think that environmental concern is a lib conspiracy. What do you think about government regulating, say, pharmaceuticals? Both parties (especially Ryan) seek to reduce the growth of the deficit. By the way, do you have a mortgage or any outstanding loans? The sequester is a Tea Kettle movement. It will hurt people like you more than the %. And it came about through GOP/TP ideology. My father, a good businessman, taught me that to make money you need to borrow money. Ask Mitt: he's the specialist in making money that way. What qualifications do you have as an economist? Or are you just ******?

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RipleyResident

Mar-06-13 1:13 PM

Regelski, you argue against the facts with lies, and exclaim that those who don't agree with you are insulting you. The government wants to regulate food (check out their policy on school lunches, or of course the soda ban in NYC), tell you which light bulbs you can & can't have. They consider deficit reduction as not actually reducing the deficit, but reducing the increase in the deficit. Our president implements the sequester, and blames republicans for letting it happen. Nearly every county in the state opposes the NYSAFE act. Do we really have a government of the people, by the people, for the people? Only if the people are a select few.

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MikeDavis

Mar-05-13 11:32 PM

Tom, feeling a little paranoid yet?

"President Barack Obama has the legal authority to unleash deadly force—such as drone strikes—against Americans on U.S. soil without first putting them on trial, Attorney General Eric Holder wrote in a letter released Tuesday" Is that a government of, for and by the people in action in your view? I really want to know the answer to that one.

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MikeDavis

Mar-05-13 9:03 PM

Tom, I didn't insult you, I congratulated you. We both know that we are sliding into the morass that Ayn Rand attempted to warn us about. But apparently you, and a bunch more that think as you do, don't mind being subjugated. That is all I said. If you think it's an insult it's only one in your head. Not mine. And my life is filled with love, from and for my family and my fellow citizens.

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Regelski

Mar-05-13 11:26 AM

Mike: you and your echo chamber misfits aren't worth the time. You think a discussion or argument means to hurl insults. Your anti-Americanism is so obvious to readers that we should fear the likes of you in our country. I do. I won't bother you and your kind (for a while): happy? You can wallow in the mud of your sloganeering and insults, and don't deserve intelligent discussion. It's wasted on you. You have no idea how to be civil: either you frequent bars where everyone agrees with your rants or you'll agrees on those who don't in any civilized context. Fair-minded readers have long ago stopped reading this and so will I. I pity your the life of hatred that you live.

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American

Mar-03-13 12:56 AM

Thank you Mike for saying so well what many of us think on this. Well said.

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RipleyResident

Mar-02-13 10:57 PM

Mike Davis nails it!

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MikeDavis

Mar-02-13 10:20 PM

Tom, I'm tired of trying to get through to you while you constantly harp on the suicides and accidents data. Keep preaching your disarmament mantra. Sooner or later you (and the student's you and the liberal schools have brain washed) will be able to succeed. I'm just hoping I am in the ground before the enslavment of the American citizens takes place. It's already under way, even you aren't naive enough to believe that "Atlas Shrugged" is taking place now. Congratulations, you and your ilk have intellectuized the wonderful idea that slavery is Utopia.

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1Laona

Mar-02-13 9:12 PM

The NY TIMES...thanks for trotting that loser out Regulateski SE,you already have credibility problems that will just about seal the deal.

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American

Mar-02-13 12:45 PM

Benito Obama and Adolph Cuomo seem to be heroes of your Regelski.

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American

Mar-02-13 12:43 PM

NY Times just another liberal rag that does whatever the democrat leaders tell them to say.

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Regelski

Mar-02-13 12:28 PM

1Laona and American continue their incomprehensible rants. It must be a burden for them to live in the US, with all the liberals and socialists and commies in charge. If only they were in charge. DUH! If there are any open-minded readers still following this discussion see *******nocera.blogs.nytimes****/2013/03/02/the-gun-report-march-2-2013/ on a daily basis for what's really happening. Others already totally convinced of the truth of their opinions, please spare us attempts to turn the facts around: that guns in the hands of the dead would have kept them alive. The stats are clear: 22% greater chance of a gun being misused in a household, to the danger of children and others, than for protection. And protection against what: the National Guard knocking on your door. These conspiracy theories are out of hand. When the President and the government are compared to Hiler and Stalin, that's overboard. I hope the FBI is watching the next generation of Timothy McVeighs. Yes you

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1Laona

Mar-01-13 1:10 PM

There was a good turn-out in Albany yesterday.Had speakers from the Senate and assembly.Those that backed us delayed proceeding so that those against us were still there so people could visit those representatives(?) that voted for the NY SAFE ACT.Never thought to count or write down the names of the speakers but they ran well past the time line they had in place.Also had speakers one Mom with her two sons(Marine&Army),her wearing her husbands hat(vet/law-enforcement)talking about her families thoughts on the 2nd Amendment.Prince Andy wasn't in town(suprise)but I'm sure our thought will be passed on to him.NRA,Scope and the NYSRPA were also great speeches.

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