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Kiyak squares off with former councilman

March 20, 2013

Sometimes a seemingly simple question can just cause a problem....

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Captain

Mar-21-13 6:27 PM

Public opinion time is not the time to be asking questions?

On the contrary, this is precisely the RIGHT time to ask questions, when all elected officials are in the same room. Honesty & integrity no longer exist among most pols.

Forestville & SC aren't the only munis who have reps who think they're beyond reproach.

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judeye

Mar-21-13 5:53 PM

rumblefish..you do realize darkstar was being sarcastic....at least I hope so..lol

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rumblefish

Mar-21-13 12:54 PM

comments like the ones made by DarkStar, show how far down the public perception has come, the council took away the pre meeting workshop and now a taxpayer can't question officials at a council meeting, what's next, oh for the days of government by the people for the people

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bulldog10

Mar-21-13 8:22 AM

Do your FOIL requests first, go seek out replies to questions before a meeting. THEN AT THE MEETING fire away with your findings. Public opinion time is not the time to be asking questions.

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DarkStar

Mar-21-13 8:14 AM

"If not in the public opinion section of the meeting..when is the time for the people to ask questions? "

Never!

We can't allow people taxpayers and other residents in the city to start questioning our illustrious leaders.

I mean if we allow that what's next? Will taxpayers expect to know how their money is being spent and possibly even expect them to not waste the money or use their positions for personal gain?

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judeye

Mar-21-13 8:06 AM

If not in the public opinion section of the meeting..when is the time for the people to ask questions?

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Santora

Mar-20-13 8:30 PM

@haveaniceday..I have no problems with women leadership and that has nothing to do with my comments.It is true the Council person at large runs the meeting....it was just the way her remarks were presented as if to say I'm the Queen and you are my subjects...could have been a better way. Oh,women have proven themselves good leaders unless of course your name is Nancy Pelosi...I voted for both our City lady Mayors.A woman president? Why not! My choice would be Condoleezza Rice certainly someone with brains

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Santora

Mar-20-13 8:20 PM

@stargirl@stevenash. joww is absolutely correct every community needs someone like Jim as part of the checks and balances system.....i.e. somebody needs to ask the questions nothing wrong with that!

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Captain

Mar-20-13 8:15 PM

Jim asks a valid question and Kyiak loses control? Just wish others would've stood up in his defense and demanded that the council or mayor give a straight answer.

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joew

Mar-20-13 7:58 PM

Actually Dunkirk needs more people like Jim Steve.

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stargirl

Mar-20-13 7:57 PM

Mr. James Muscato, Please just go away!

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225522

Mar-20-13 7:30 PM

Last one out of Dunkirk and don't ask any questions!

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Escapee

Mar-20-13 7:20 PM

Phil, we need a DLDC because you can’t successfully deal 3 card monte with one card.

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stevenash

Mar-20-13 7:06 PM

Dear James Muscato..you are no longer an elected official, please do the residents of the city of Dunkirk a favor and kindly go away!...You go to the meetings to stir up trouble and attempt to act like your in charge..not because you have the citys best interests in mind.

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commentor

Mar-20-13 4:32 PM

Now now children. Isn't this professional.

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hadenough

Mar-20-13 3:28 PM

I was always taught that if you don't know something ask a question. It is going to be interesting to see how Kiyak handles the speech concerning the fiework given by a Fredonia resident. According to council rules I believe that only residents of the city are allowed to address the council. However, instead of meeting twice month to accomplish basically nothing. Do something. Handle the issues of the people and the city. I mean who really care about people needing a permit to play music at the point.

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magicman

Mar-20-13 3:19 PM

Kiyak likes to practice what is known as Obama Transparency.

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rumblefish

Mar-20-13 2:27 PM

so when and where is the time to hold public officials accountable for the choices that they make,as we see it JM was trying to get an answer to city involvement on the public record, if questions are not going to be accepted and or answered then what is the sense of attending a public meeting?

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PhilJulian

Mar-20-13 2:25 PM

Ms Kiyak is technically correct but this is a procedural issue that has been blown out of proportion. I personally would like to know what is involved with the larger issue of the AL Tech clean up? Does it involve more than the Lucas Ave. site and why is the city responsible? One more question - why do we need a DLDC?

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HaveANiceDay

Mar-20-13 1:52 PM

Santora, you are dead wrong. The Councilwoman at Large DOES run the meeting. Seems like you boys don't like the idea of a woman telling you what to do. Hahaha. Public comment time is not a question and answer session.

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rumblefish

Mar-20-13 1:18 PM

it not a secret that Ms. Kiyak has a real dislike for the former council-person at large, still being snippy is no excuse for a public official to act

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hadenough

Mar-20-13 1:14 PM

teacher teacher FYI. Mr. Muscato no longer holds a position of authority in the city. These questions are the business of the sitting Mayor and council. It seems to this reader that no one not the mayor or the council know what the*****is going on in this city. As for deferring the question to a subordinate this is proof enough that the elected body of the city has no clue. Also, for the Observer to dedicate an entire article to this subject kinds tells me he Observer is in need of an overhaul.

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Santora

Mar-20-13 12:02 PM

[Santora added] I forgot to add in my comment how I wished Bill Dill was still around for the Observer. We'd have a "digger" and maybe understand a lot more of City workings.

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Santora

Mar-20-13 11:52 AM

"Because this is my meeting and I'm allowing the mayor to speak to you," Kiyak said.....EXCUSE ME? She can run the meeting but as it being HER meeting...it is everyones meeting!! A person has a right to ask any question of their elected officials....they may not get an answer but still have the right to ask the questions. How about Snyder doing the investigative work instead of pursuing why Kiyak did what she did!For a person who's only lived here a short period of time and one who has touted transparency she sure has been giving the impression she knows everything about everything.It was a simple question and the point Muscato was inherently making was...he may be on these Boards and they may suggest one thing or agree on something else...BUT as we all know, the City always seems to do whatever they want. Say what you will, disagree or not..Jim knows his stuff and is not dumb by a long shot

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kilroy069

Mar-20-13 11:45 AM

well luckally for mr. muscato.he is up the creek without a kiyak on this one...

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