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Dunkirk school board resolves to work with Fredonia

March 22, 2013

The Dunkirk Board of Education recently took another step toward a feasibility study with Fredonia to explore sharing options....

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commentor

Mar-22-13 3:04 PM

I don't see how you can save much money with a merge if all school buildings will be kept open. Unless you get everyone into one building you have the same maintenance and need the same number of teachers. You could cut administration but that won't be earth shaking in savings. Probably the best that can come from this is just sharing as many things as possible but then they will probably just spend it elsewhere. Unless the entire County is re-organized and unions have power taken away or done away with small mergers will solve nothing. I give you Mayville School in as much trouble as everyone else after a merger.

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Captain

Mar-22-13 2:39 PM

Has it ever NOT cost taxpayers more money when BOEs make decisions?

I don't necessarily oppose merging both districts, and if done right, the savings COULD be huge, but first & foremost, the merge would never pass w/o employee support. Public support is a different obstacle, but to gain employee support, it'll require limiting the number of positions to cut, which would prevent maximum savings, thus risk losing public support.

As long as the same players remain in the game (union, BOE, PERB, etc), one that has helped cause public ED costs to grow out of control, then any savings will quickly disappear. In other words, if you don't correct the cause, you'll get the same effect.

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MikeDavis

Mar-22-13 10:37 AM

Seriously, when was the last time you have heard of any public system concerned about how much money they wasting? They just go to the boards and/or legislatures and ask for more.

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MikeDavis

Mar-22-13 10:35 AM

So if Brocton, Fredonia, and Dunkirk all merge we would have the B.F.D. school district?

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SmallTownSmallMind

Mar-22-13 10:03 AM

I agree with all the posts here this morning. My question is, whose idea is the outside study? It doesn't sound like the supers even have a choice. Secondly, Commentor is right, athletics will be the sticking point if a merger is the ultimate goal. A lot of history in what has always been a huge rivalry. As a former athlete, I can remember when D&F came together for the Moose League Baseball All-Stars in the 70's and the Fred guys played on the same team as the Dunk guys (and Westfield and Brocton etc.). Still friends to this day. Just put them together and it will work out. In addition to cost savings, the teams will be great.

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Christopher

Mar-22-13 8:51 AM

Commentor, I have always felt that a total merger of the communities was the way to go, and I know many, many people hate the idea. But a city of 25,000 to 30,000 people has a lot more clout politically with those above than two separate entities half that size.

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Captain

Mar-22-13 8:36 AM

Agree w/Christopher. I presume school Supts should already possess these skills BEFORE a district hires them. Isn't this the criteria and/or part of their job description before being hired?

Paying a consultant to tell Supts how to do their job is either redundant (and costly), or the BOEs hired the wrong people, unless of course such skills were indeed never required. If that's the case, what warrants these Supts high salaries and generous benefits pkg?

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commentor

Mar-22-13 8:25 AM

Looks like Phil is finally going to be a happy man. Me thinks this is Dk/Fred way of sneaking up on a merger. Let's do it little by little. Once we share a lot the last item is merge. If they get over the biggest hurdle.....sports....it just might work.

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Christopher

Mar-22-13 6:25 AM

Question: with the educated staff of 2 high schools available, they need to hire someone to do a study on cost savings if they share various functions? I don't get it. BOCES asking sending schools what THEY want, on the other hand, is a good sign. But I'm mystified that schools with educated business managers, superintendents and the like need an outside study performed at a cost of thousands of dollars to explore savings from shared services.

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