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How Republicans easily change tune

March 24, 2013

In 1996, as a member of the House of Representatives, Republican Sen. Rob Portman voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman....

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ProudToBeUnAmerican

Mar-24-13 7:33 AM

Portman is NOT a true Republican. True Republicans believe that all gays should be executed, whether they are family members or complete strangers. Portman, although his endorsement of gay rights is wishy-washy and obviously insincere, hardly qualifies as a RINO, and true Republican voters will easily oust him in the next election.

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joew

Mar-24-13 8:14 AM

ProudToBeUnAmerican-do you feel the same towards President Obama who in 2008 said"I believe marriage is between a man and a woman" and has since changed his tune? Just curious what your response to that is UnAmerican?

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stangv8

Mar-24-13 9:00 AM

Portman is the perfect example of a politician who has only political convictions and no personal convictions. Same goes for Obama.

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Steiner

Mar-24-13 9:01 AM

sarah, you are confused again. I saw on TV , the clintons advocating the repeal of DOMA. obama change his tune too.. The repubs the party of me ? are you kidding ? The dems got a lock on this with their abortion rights, same sex stuff, etc. Basically if it feels good do it says the libs. sarah, take your attitude and multiply by millions of activist women and we see their problem. 50% of population, 4% of CEOs and 14% of boards. yet they will say the democratic party is the party for them . I want this to continue, as it make it easy for homely males like myself to succeeed in business. the women get confused as you are in this article.

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MikeDavis

Mar-24-13 10:15 AM

This could easily be said of the democratic party and slavery. Politicians of all beliefs will suddenly change their tune if it means votes. Nice fluff piece Sarah. My only issue with this legislating protections in for some people and not others. A "straight" couple engage in over the top PDA's and it's fine to tell them to get a room, tell that to a gay couple doing the same thing and suddenly it becomes a hate crime. I don't care what two people do in private, I think anyone that a person wants at their side in a medical, financial, or life decision is their business. Not the governments nor mine. That said.. I am really tired of being told I'm a homophobe if I don't come out cheering when "Joe" announces he smokes poles and/or Joan announces she munches carpet. I won't cheer it because it's none of my business and I DON'T CARE, it's your life. Stop telling me what to do and think in the name of P.C. Pure Childishness

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SmallTownSmallMind

Mar-24-13 11:43 AM

"...he was unable to imagine the plight of other human beings without a family reference."

You nail it here, Sarah. It's like compassion doesn't kick in until they experience adversity first-hand. The Portman deal was reminiscent of Mrs. Reagan coming out in favor of stem cell transplants when President Reagan was stricken with Altzheimer's. Why were she and her husband so against it all those years? Moreover, why did she not favor it until it directly affected her and her family? All she had to do was put herself in someone else's shoes. All Portman had to do was put himself in someone else's place. But, no; they had to experience it with a family member, then their minds were changed. Good work, Sarah.

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stangv8

Mar-24-13 11:43 AM

Well said Mike. Why is it when someone comes out of the closet, they have to blow the trumpets and sound the horns? Just live your life and shut up about it.

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SmallTownSmallMind

Mar-24-13 11:51 AM

Mike Davis what's up with you? I normally respect your posts, even when you call someone out (myself included). However, you seem unusually angry and not your usual classy self. The pole smoking and carpet munching is nasty, and I was really surprised by that level of raunchy and disrespectful comment coming from you.

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MikeDavis

Mar-24-13 12:40 PM

Bad week Small, sorry. More than a little over the top there.

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rdnewt

Mar-24-13 2:33 PM

I think that "Proud" was a little over the top as well with the comment about "True Republicans believe that all gays should be executed". Sarah's comments and understanding of human nature are also to be called into question with this article. Perhaps she should just be happy that someone was able to come around and see the world from a different perspective, rather than criticize that it was done. Honestly, I used to not be in favor of gay marriage, but now I have grown to realize that marriage is between two people and God, and has nothing to do with my opinion, or the government's. There are much more important issues out there in the our nation for the government to make an issue out of, than who a person goes home to at the end of the day. Everyone, on BOTH SIDES, wants to limit what a person does within the walls of his home, when really, what we need is for the government to stay out of our personal lives completely. Continued...

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rdnewt

Mar-24-13 2:40 PM

Continued from below...Whether it is on the matter of guns, gays, weed, cigarettes, soda, or junk food, The government has no business interjecting itself into private lives. This does however, also open up for discussion that along the same lines falls government payments. Just as the government has no right to prod into private homes, neither does It have the right to spend the money of private citizens, on other private citizens of It's choosing. It is funny how we spend so much time as a child, trying to break free of the bonds of our parents, to falling right back into the same routine with our government. Maybe we are a society of sheep.

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MikeDavis

Mar-24-13 2:45 PM

Red..."proud" is nothing but a troll. I don't bother reading his posts nor taking the mental effort to form a reply anymore. And that was a great post on your part.

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Steiner

Mar-25-13 8:25 AM

Lets see , the left calls Bush stupid still. So we have two guys saying they like a behind of a man rather than a woman. Thats not stupid ? How does that work guys ? darwin, the darling of the left is defeated by this. same for the same sex gals. You same sex people sure are confused. thats ok, just dont make it into a law. All the publicity is trying to sway the Court as it was swayed in obama care decision. stay in the closet people.

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Steiner

Mar-25-13 8:29 AM

Statistics show gay men have shorter lives due to their high risk lifestyle. All of a sudden, health takes a back seat to votes. Smokers do not get the same treatment as gay people do. Its much worse. So you gay men explain all of this quick, so we can understand you.How could you goof up something so simple ? male and female. must be the famous liberal intelligence I hear about.

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FredoniaFred

Mar-25-13 9:28 AM

This should not be a democrat or republican issue. God said that He loves all men and all of those who accept Jesus as savior will be saved. He also said that homosexuality was an abomination to Him. One can not accept Jesus while practicing homosexuality. One can turn from their homosexual ways and be saved thru Jesus Christ.

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PhilJulian

Mar-25-13 9:36 AM

I can't believe we look to politicians for guidance on moral issues. They have to be the most immoral people on earth. Gays have a right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness like everyone else and they should live the lifestyle of their choice. They do not have a right to change the definition of marriage.

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stangv8

Mar-25-13 10:52 AM

I find it interesting that Ms Schwab labels the Republican party as the party of "ME" because one republican changed his stand on gay marriage due to his son being gay. I wonder what Ms. Schwab labels the Democrat party since Hillary and Obama changed their stand on gay marriage for no other reason that votes?

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rdnewt

Mar-25-13 11:02 AM

Steiner and Fred, it is one thing to not understand why someone would have feeling sexually towards someone of the same sex, it is another thing to ask government to regulate morality. I don't know why gays think the way they do, but it is not for me to pass judgement on them, it is between them and God. As long as there is no special treatment given to them, that is above what a heterosexual couple would have, there should be no legal challenge. Morally, that is your personal decision. Dogmatically, that is also your decision. In order to protect freedom of religion, we can not allow a particular religion to dictate law, or we would be no better than Sharia.

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joew

Mar-25-13 12:18 PM

Stang-agree just as i said in the second post but no response from the usual crowd on the left. It was just announced that Sen. McCaskill just changed her mind as well. That's perfectly OK since she is a Democrat.

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Marcia

Mar-25-13 1:06 PM

rdnewt, I am always surprised when I agree with one of the conservatives on this post. Gays are only asking for equal treatment. Now, if you think gay marriage is wrong, don't marry another person of another gender. But in our secular country we should not discriminate against people. If we want to get rid of all of the benefits received by married people, then don't allow gay marriage. But as soon as you give health, retirement, tax, property rights, adoption rights, etc. to heterosexual couples, you are discriminating. As to the article, I think however people come to their opinions, it does not matter. Most loving parent's change their minds when they find out their children are gay.

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Dcronlg

Mar-25-13 1:44 PM

marcia -- If a social conservative hetero, single or couple, really believes that the marriage of the gay couple living next door, or across the street, or across town or even in another state, has a real threatening impact on their marriage...then I'd argue there's a secret which one of the spouses isn't telling the other...

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MikeDavis

Mar-25-13 1:56 PM

Oh man, really Dc? REALLY? A post from you I agree with...which one of us should be more afraid of that fact? LOL

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Dcronlg

Mar-25-13 3:52 PM

MikeyD -- thx for the compliment. Even a broken clock is right twice a day -- so every day, it seems we have at least two opportunities to agree...

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MikeDavis

Mar-25-13 9:43 PM

Dc you can't even take an agreement with your opinion without being degrading. Your truely a sad human being in some serious need of help.

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killers

Mar-26-13 2:35 PM

I wonder if supporters of homosexual marriage would also support polygamy. I seems odd you do not hear these same people advocating for that group. I would think what is good for one group should be okay for the other.

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