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Towns take stand in drilling ban

April 13, 2013

Can New York town governments, using their long-standing land use planning and zoning authority, ban gas drilling in their jurisdictions? The Towns of Dryden and Middlefield say, “Ye....

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Marcia

Apr-15-13 10:24 AM

Since the towns will pay for the maintenance and repair of the roads the trucks will use for the fracking process, they should definitely have a say in whether it is allowed. And Steiner, we understand that natural gas is clean, but taking it out of the earth through fracking is not. One thing I can appreciate, is that here we have liberals and conservatives agreeing that fracking is bad for the environment. The fact that many areas of the country are more than willing to forego their environment for short term jobs for out of area gas drillers is no reason to follow the crowd.

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judeye

Apr-14-13 8:50 AM

Mike Davis....I have not seen that yet. I just googled it, and YES it sounds like a film we all should watch. Thanks

Water is so precious to ALL life. We must take action to protect it from the greed that would pollute and make it toxic..just for monetary gain.

Some things..well many things...in life are more important than money. Water is one for sure.

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Steiner

Apr-14-13 8:18 AM

hey carlaw, you like many posters think they know something, but they dont. The world has a stake in the fracking boom in America. people the world over want the gas. All you can think of his money. well, it is much more than money. heat, chemicals & electricity are all at stake here. I do have a kind of stake as i have worked in the chemical industry for decades and loved every minute of it. I know what the industry does to provide the world with the stuff we need. you have little or no knowledge,like christopher, just imaginations of doom. The earth picks up millions of tons of water every year from comets. carlaw, please give us your so called learned opinion, it is rather nothing, but you like other posters here feel good. Oh you people are telling landowners what to do with their land, does not sound like choice to me. Perhaps they should open an abortion clininc for the gals protesting fracking. Read haber process and history. The world needs the natural gas.

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Steiner

Apr-14-13 7:49 AM

hey posters, never have i seen so much confusion. Contaminated wells ? take a sample to a good analytical lab and test. A large state school will have the equipment if you do not trust private enterprise. I bet people are drinking straight well water without a test. Any good lab with a good chemist can id the contaminants. merely ranting is not proof. Cozy up to the drillers and get the fracking water samples. Any good chick should be able to charm a sample. I love reading so many unlearned posts and the fake concern . All you posters have bought ny stuff in the store and so has a huge chunk of the world so i have experience, you have feelings , like a good liberal. right christopher? Show us your technical union prowess ! Make steiner proud !

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Steiner

Apr-14-13 7:43 AM

hey christopher, remember you buy my stuff in the store. i love chemicals be it pine tree or oil and gas derived. carlaw is completely ignorant as are all libs as to how and where our lifestyle started or is maintained. hey carlaw, you can gave a wrong opinion, it shows how uneducated you are. It is the libs with their action against citizens united that are against free speech, noit me. Carlaw, please read history, you will see that fracking is science.when is the end of the world libs ?

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Steiner

Apr-14-13 7:39 AM

hey christopher, you got it wrong as usual. You made a fool out of yourself. i quoted science, you say LOL. excellent analysis christopher. carlaw. you have no knowledge of science or history. Pollution, you gotta be kidding me. Truck the water to any sewage plant or one that burns the solids. there was much much more pollution pre love canal days and we are still here.I say again, libs love famine and cold. they lionized the soviet union even after the soviets starved millions to death. Milk was dumped on the farms in the depression. ethanol mandates raised food prices and caused food riots in the 3rd world.Those libs, and bush is stupid right libs ?

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concerned

Apr-13-13 11:36 PM

Disturber take notes the writer of this commentary actually reported facts without injecting his personal opinions into the article job well done! Paul as far as truth in environmental studies is concerned you will never find an unbiased study done on any subject anywhere as all studies require funding which the source of which directly effects the outcome of the study results!

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MikeDavis

Apr-13-13 5:10 PM

Anyone unconcerned with fracking needs to watch the documentary Blue Gold. End of discussion.

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wastelanddweller

Apr-13-13 12:19 PM

What does it matter anymore? This is western NY, where Lake Erie is already polluted, some of the highest cancer rates and MS rates in the country are here because of the chemicals pumped into the farm land and all the nuclear sites around here. What does a little drilling to this area matter?

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Christopher

Apr-13-13 11:12 AM

Great job, Steiner, every time I think you can't get anymore ridiculous, you prove me wrong! LOL!

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Carlaw

Apr-13-13 10:35 AM

My analysis: You want to take away my freedom of speech, and ban my opinion because it differs from yours. You resort to name calling and personal attacks to prove your point. This tells me that you probably have a dog in the race and have something to gain personally, or you think you are impressing someone else. I don't think you've accomplished anything. People who know me know I am about as far "right", as you would call it, as anyone can get. This isn't a right or a left issue. You need to learn to respect other blogger's freedom to express an opinion. There is my analysis and I won't even send you a bill! :)

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Steiner

Apr-13-13 10:06 AM

hey libs, take a look at a lung. Our windpipe splits to the bronchi and then fracks into the alveoli to exchange gases.Our cirulation system does the same thing. fracking is science. The lungs pollute christopher as they release CO2. the libs could not even make or understand a human lung. No wonders they say you did not build that. Those libs, they do not understand even the simplest of concepts. They are the most unlearned of all luddites ever seen on the planet.

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Steiner

Apr-13-13 9:46 AM

fracking has made a huge hydrocarbon boom out west. Unemployment is low and water is even scarcer out there and fracking is being done. Several pipelines are on the drawing board, but the unlearned libs and their pipe dream of green energy want to stop it. RR's are king again, moving millions of barrels of oil. Those depleting resources anti plastic people ! The libs say we need to be free of imported oil , fracking comes along and they shout, we gotta stop this its working. those crazy liberals always trying to wreck society. They have great history in Wilson, FDR, truman , lbj, etc. Libs are plain retarded.

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Steiner

Apr-13-13 9:41 AM

christopher chimed in. he knows little of what it takes to keep our lifestyle going, saying things like pollution , greed etc.All industry have permits to pollute. It cannot be done without pollution. Do you know that christopher ? Humans pollute just by being alive. Fracking is going on bigtime across the US . Where are the mass deaths christopher ? Look up fritz haber and his process. Has the govt solved anything christopher ? Has it come up with anything ? no, but that does not stop the libs.. So please libs, you are paranoid and delusional, believing in green energy a polyanna concept for sure. Libs believe in so many pollyanna things as they have not done much inventing as they did not build that. So christopher, tell us what we are to do without gas and oil. A govt program ? tax the wealthy , more unions ?Come on liberals !

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Christopher

Apr-13-13 9:28 AM

Anyone expecting the truth on the environmental impact of any manufacturing process from almost any large American corporation defines the term "Pollyanna". American companies routinely pollute the environment as those that own them never live n the effected areas. You can't eat any fish from the permanently polluted Lake Ontario mostly due to the American companies that were located on the Niagara River. That's just one example of millions.

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Steiner

Apr-13-13 9:01 AM

carlaw can you understand that gas drilling benefits the whole of humanity and not just the land owner or the driller? You believe wrong carlaw as a good activist should. when is the end due to drilling ? read history please. If there were no hydrocarbons on the planet we would have to invent them as they are so useful. thats why libs want to get rid of them. anything that works, in the libs opinion, like carlaws, must be banned. Right libs ?

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Steiner

Apr-13-13 8:54 AM

hey dc and carlaw, you are confused. dc for sure. My inhalation of gas? Hey dc, check some history. What I have said about gas is true . You know nothing dc. Carlaw, the left must be crazy as they are always talking about the end of the world and more govt regulation in our lives. No matter that model failed everywhere. I say again, natural gas is a prime chemical feedstock , especially for the fritz haber process, dc. Look it up as you always make a fool out of yourself here. All the anti drillers arte really asking for starvation aand cold. What are we going to heat our homes with ? Carlaw, there is a move to compressed air instead of water. Would that be ok in your learned opinion or will we run out of atmosphere ? Carlaw , give us your analysis.

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Carlaw

Apr-13-13 8:43 AM

Steiner, It is simplistic to say that the left or the right is always crazy. Fracking wastes millions of gallons of water and they don't even know what to do with it afterwards because it is so toxic.They will force it back into the ground so it will go everywhere.There are 7 Billion people in the world and that number is increasing exponentially. People need water to survive and only 2% is drinkable. Maybe that doesn't mean anything to you. That's fine, you have your own opinion, but I believe we have to do what is right, not just what is profitable for a few people. Since when is the best interest of the people called nonsense?

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Dcronlg

Apr-13-13 8:38 AM

Steinerdzzz...I had no idea that your love affair with and apparent inhalation of gas has caused you to be unable to form sentences or conjoin complete thoughts together into a coherent piece of communication.

Your use of gas has moved you from streams-of-consciousness to loss-of-consciousness.

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Steiner

Apr-13-13 8:28 AM

carlaw, you do not know what you are talking about. Natural gas is a primefeedstock in the chemical industry besides heating many homes. who is wasting water ? So people like you and ron are advocating starvation and cold by wanting to ban fracking..You dont say that but you say in the best interest of citizens or other such nonsense.The hydrogen from gas is used to make ammonia in the fritz haber process, another man , gals, used to make fertilizer and explosives. This feeds about half the world. So all you anti drillers are paranoid deluded and under a modified safe act, should not be allowed to vote. Otherwise, we will be like north korea . Christopher says it is the right wing mandating but here for sure it is the left telling us what we can do. I say ban the left as they are crazies.

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Christopher

Apr-13-13 6:19 AM

"theirs" should be "there's", but you get the point.

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Christopher

Apr-13-13 6:19 AM

I think theirs a bigger issue at stake here.

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Carlaw

Apr-13-13 4:34 AM

Water is a precious resource that we take for granted. Only 2% of the Planet's water is drinkable. One third of this water is in the North Eastern part of our nation. How much water does this process contaminate and waste? How can you justify wasting even one drop?

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