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Fredonia outlines its cut list

April 24, 2013

Cuts were laid on the table with the final draft of the Fredonia School District Budget Tuesday....

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roberta2

Apr-24-13 7:38 AM

OK--NOT going to try -Not even trying---Cutting a few teachers aids and there programs---AND THE BIG ONE-The board!! Blaming Kathy Young and legestors because they cant have the big moneys of year ago----And Wont Even try Once again--- My famous words Close the Pool -Cut Sports --Everyone pick a way to cut the budget and dwell on it ----VOTE NO

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commentor

Apr-24-13 7:52 AM

3.29 per 1000 increase is absolutely outrageous!!!! A NO vote is needed. They have 2/3 of teacher salaries left un-frozen. Freeze them!! They cut NO administration!! Cut some!! Sports.....yes cut some!!! People of Fredonia send the message...VOTE NO!!!

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localresident

Apr-24-13 8:24 AM

Thanks DiFonzo for not putting forth any effort whatsoever.

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baseball

Apr-24-13 8:45 AM

Teachers at the top of the pay scale make $90,000. That is way too much for this area to afford! The board is to blame with the contract negotiations. They usually cut aids who make peanuts with no benefits! Employees in the public sector are taking zero percent raises and paying more for health care. Question is, will the greedy teachers union help keep cost down or continue to rape the tax payers!

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PhilJulian

Apr-24-13 8:54 AM

There is an option. Move to Dunkirk where we have a neighborhood school system and no tax increase for six consecutive years.

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Mason1

Apr-24-13 10:32 AM

The idea of cuts should not end in an increase in revenue (Taxes) Cuts should mean lower taxes NOT just a small deduction from your original proposal. If Fredonia grows its student enrollment population than I could stomach the need for increases

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commentor

Apr-24-13 11:06 AM

Yup that's right Phil move to Dunkirk. You tout consolidation and then promote neighborhood schools. Which is it. I think it is anything to save your sorry city that doesn't even qualify as a city any more.

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Pink200

Apr-24-13 11:08 AM

I posted comments years ago about how Paul DiFonzo's goal was to pad his pockets because of personal reasons, and here we are several years later and the tax payers of Fredonia are STILL getting tax raped by a school system that pays more taxes than most Buffalo and suburb of Buffalo schools for a district that ranks about 60 out of 100 and has 1/8 of the enrollment. When you add in their salary and the fact that they pay little if anything toward their retirement and health benefits, they are making 3 times more than the tax payer who's footing the bill for their high of the hog lifestyle. When I got wind of this I MOVED...when are the rest of you going to WAKE UP and do the same or finally DO SOMETHING about this corruption? Side note: Why are you paying for "English as a second language" teachers? This is still America right? DISGUSTING.

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DarkStar

Apr-24-13 11:30 AM

PhilJulian,

And yet Dunkirk has a $41 million school budget.

I'm curious, does anyone have current enrollment numbers for these two districts?

One other comment, about neighborhood schools, why exactly is Dunkirk, which has neighborhood school running buses to each of those schools? I mean everytime eliminating one of the school buildings comes up those against it talk about transportation cost, but it seems that we are already paying to transport many for the kids anyways.

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localresident

Apr-24-13 1:03 PM

I can only imagine what the "contingency" budget is. What, maybe 5 bucks less?

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-24-13 2:13 PM

Pink, Agree with the ESL point. If you move to America you must acclimate to our country. As of January 2012, all new teachers are required to contribute 3.5% of their salary to their pension fund for life. That means new teachers will contribute approximately $40,000 more to the retirement pension than current teachers who currently contribute for 10 years only. In 2012 Fredonia was ranked 27th in student achievement out of 97 school districts in Western New York not 60th. Which is 68 spots HIGHER than Dunkirk (95th out of 97). In 2012 the Fredonia teachers were the 20th ranked district in western NY in terms of teacher salary. Dunkirk was ranked 41st. I'm not a fan of all the spending in education. However, I am a fan of reporting accurate statistics.

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baseball

Apr-24-13 2:43 PM

Phil, your neighborhood schools are a joke, thought you touted consolidation, neighborhood schools are very expensive! Just because you live near one, does not mean that your kid will go there! I have friends that live right near one, yet their kids are bused to another one! Dunkirk still remains near the bottom of the School rankings and testing also. Not a very good system as I see it. What will happen if nat grid pulls out, they pay 50% of your school taxes. If Carriage house left Fredonia, they will be able to weather the storm a little better, because carriage hpuse does not even come close to paying the tax percentage that Nat. Grid pays. Get real Phil!

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PhilJulian

Apr-24-13 4:23 PM

Let me help clear the air. Average test scores in Dunkirk reflect the city's racial, ethnic and economic diversity. I suspect the brighter students in Dunkirk can be compared to Fredonia or any other district. As for elementary consolidation, when former Superintendent Militello proposed closing schools 4 and 5 and expanding 3 and 7 I attended a board meeting to question the economics of the move. I asked Militello "if we close 4 and 5 how many jobs will you eliminate" he responded "none". I then asked "if we close these schools how much will you reduce the tax rate?" He responded "none - in fact the rate will increase by $1.06 per thousand". In the final analysis I am a proponent of consolidation but there has to be some economic reason for it. The truth is that in the case of Dunkirk we did not have the financial justification or the leadership to make it work. At about 10PM on the evening of the above meeting I received a call from the superi

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PhilJulian

Apr-24-13 4:29 PM

He said "Phil - we really want your support for this project". I responded "not a chance". I tend to think building projects are simply resume' builders for superintendents. Consolidation can make sense but there has to be a commitment to reducing expenses and improving the system. It's hard to find that commitment with any of our local school boards or superintendents. If I had my way there would be one county school system, one school board and one superintendent.

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momof3kids

Apr-24-13 4:35 PM

Disappointed. Disappointed. Disappointed. Although, not surprised. No need to cut from wasteful areas first apparently. Everyone keep your "fluff" while we fire teachers.

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commentor

Apr-24-13 5:01 PM

Go away Phil you are only digging your hole deeper and deeper. You say consolidate because it will save money and then you say consolidating Dunkirk Schools wouldn't save any money. Do you really hear yourself??? As for how much less the contingency budget is doesn't matter. Vote NO send the message taxpayers are NOT happy. Until they make real cuts taxpayers will vote NO!!!!

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localresident

Apr-24-13 5:25 PM

Commentor, Phil is saying that consolidation SHOULD save money, but according to the Dunkirk school board, they have no plans on eliminating waste, and only plan on tacking onto it instead of doing the right thing. A cost saving should be an open-and-shut case for Dunkirk, but the asinine thinking of the board (and the union, I'm sure) will NEVER let that happen. It's for the union! Oops! I mean, it's for the kids! It is obvious that "greedy corporations" have very much in common with a school district when it comes to fluff spending. Only difference is, those corporations make a profit.

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Pink200

Apr-24-13 6:08 PM

HAVE A NICE DAY - I don't know where you're getting YOUR facts from because Fredonia is currently 55th. I stated they ranked "about 60" as I could not remember off the top of my head. So there's your accurate statistic.

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becca45

Apr-24-13 6:19 PM

Does anyone else out there remember when school was about education and less about corporate ideologies? Fredonia Central has 3rd and 4th graders who struggle to read and write. Teachers (great teachers may I add) that attempt to fill the role of both parent and teacher of these children that have no demands placed on them at home. Children are not made to do their homework, read or do anything that remotely resembles education BUT boy oh boy, can they tell you all about the new HALO game that they play for 8 hours a day. As sad as it is to make ANY cuts, Teachers are our priority in the schools!!! Sports are important but what good is an athlete that can not read? A Superintendent, 3 principals, 3 assistant principals, secretaries in every office, district administration....What is wrong with this picture??? No one wants to see anyone lose their job BUT when teachers are the first "jobs" on the chopping block, this sends a message of what is truely important to this d

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becca45

Apr-24-13 6:25 PM

As a parent of children in this district and one who pays taxes, I will vote NO to this proposal. I am disheartened that my husband and I bought a home in this district.

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concerned

Apr-24-13 7:33 PM

Here is a good project for the disturber get the budget amount and enrollment for every school district in the county then divide each budget by the district enrollment and post the true cost per student!!!!!

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momof3kids

Apr-24-13 8:09 PM

@becca... It's too bad that we have a district intent on saving admin and admin support staff over teachers. Cuts are not being made in areas that matter. Taking teachers to the chopping block from the get-go is a very telling action by Fredonia. It tells me that there are personal interests and wants being tended to by our administration before what is best for the students. We do NOT under any circumstances need 6 principals in one building! We do not need nearly 20 administrative assistants or a switchboard operator. The business office is over staffed and those duties could be divided. When the budget is tight our administrators should be willing to "go without" to keep programming and teachers in place for the students.

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HaveANiceDay

Apr-24-13 10:01 PM

PINK, Buffalo Business First school rankings is published every year. That is my source. What is your source?

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DarkStar

Apr-25-13 7:36 AM

PhilJulian,

But what would the result have been had it been proposed instead again as an alternative to remodeling all the schools that happened not to long ago?

I mean yes I can understand building a new building would cause a spike in spending during that time, but if the board actually put some thought into things and did it in place of major reconstruction of all the schools much of the cost could be offset.

But ultimately localresident is correct, if the school board doesn't care about saving money consolidation wont save anything. It's like a drunk not buying any food since any money saved on food is spent on booze instead.

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judeye

Apr-25-13 8:18 AM

Oh the rankings. Seems it depends on who is doing the scorecard. I found Fredonia ranked 4th on great schools site, 277 out of 697 on school digger site, and 99 out of 430 on Buffalo Bus First site.

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