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Different, but still greed

April 30, 2013

It is not greedy or selfish to enjoy the fruits of one’s own labor. It is greedy, selfish and slothful to try to live off the fruits of your neighbors’ labors....

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joew

May-04-13 12:46 PM

The simple fact is that Exxon-Mobil payed almost 8 BILLION into the federal coffers in 2009. So sick of the lies that they payed no taxes,it's BS plain and simple!It's sort of like the "user fee" on your NYS vehicle registration,not a tax right? Look at your phone bill both cellular and land line,not taxes there either right?

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225522

May-03-13 9:32 PM

Life is not fair and bad things happen to good people. If you worked 38 years good for you. That you must compare to anyone who also worke but has a higher standard of living in class envy. Everyone has a chance. What we chose and what happens is ours to do and say. Exon employs thousand of people who are then tax payers because of their employment. Not so with ALCO...there is no taxes from the company nor their employees now. Which do you perfer?

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American

May-03-13 5:31 PM

Marcia, contrary to your screwed up thinking "We need to stand up to these false stereotypes" is more then likely what they disagreed with Not that you claim to have worked for 38 years.

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1Laona

May-03-13 3:15 PM

Marcia,don't put yourself down like that(brainless and useless).All of us don't feel that way(just Judeye's 90%).

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Marcia

May-03-13 8:57 AM

So someone actually disagreed that I have been working for 38 years? Do I need to present my social security statement? Brainless and useless.

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joew

May-03-13 6:49 AM

Marcia-to build a bit more on what Phil stated I suggest you watch or read "gifted hands" The Dr Ben Carson story.

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PhilJulian

May-02-13 10:06 PM

MARCIA - in our country libetalism has become closely associated with the welfare state. It is support of economic equality and a redistribution of the wealth of the country, taking from those who produce and giving to those who do not. I still like to think of America as a land of opportunity where the greatest rewards go to those who make the greatest effort and have the greatest achievement. When we deviate from that principal we destroy the incentives for hard work and success. I believe we need a social net to help those who fall on hard times but I strongly disapprove of those who become parasites on society and make no effort to become productive, self supporting and contributing members of society. The liberals I refer to simply want something for nothing and the conservatives I refer to don't want to pay for it.

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American

May-02-13 6:39 PM

None of them are true liberals. Well maybe they are "lacking moral restraint : licentious" "not literal or strict : loose" "of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties" I take that to mean they should be ok with the 2nd as it stands or even less restrictive. "Falling to the left on the political spectrum of the average person, being in favor of more government control of economic actions (such as making minimum wage laws), but less governmental control of personal actions"

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Marcia

May-02-13 5:51 PM

joew, you really think we are that generous? I doubt the people of Iraq and Afghanistan would agree, neither of whom attacked us, were attacked by us and we destroyed their countries. Iraq had a modern infrastructure and decent education system. There was no reason to attack these countries, kill hundreds of thousands of their citizens, and destroy their countries. Not very Christian behavior. Wait, I take that back, very Christian behavior. Which is why I'm not a Christian.

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Marcia

May-02-13 5:48 PM

Phil Julian, I am extremely offended by your contention that "a true liberal believes he is entitled to a free ride. A true conservative is afraid he will have to pay for it." I have been working for 38 years, never unemployed? What about you other liberals? What is your work history like. We need to stand up to these false stereotypes.

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PhilJulian

May-02-13 9:15 AM

I think we can sum this up by saying that a true liberal believes he is entitled to a free ride. A true conservative is afraid he will have to pay for it. Both major political parties have taken extreme liberal/conservative positions while no one reppresents middle America. If you doubt me consider that about 90% of Americans believe that congress does a poor job. This is not the country I grew up in and I believe we may be on a course of self destruction. Over 60 years ago my family had a plaque on the kitchen wall which read "The Lord helps those who help themselves". I think that still holds true today.

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joew

May-02-13 9:12 AM

Someone on FOX last night said"suspend all student visas for muslims and chinese for two years". I agree!

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joew

May-02-13 8:28 AM

Judeye-Phil was alluding to freeloaders,not to those who have fallen on hard times. Big difference. Everyone has the opportunity in this country to better themselves. Who as you state is against anyone bettering themselves?

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joew

May-02-13 7:53 AM

Christopher-thanks for the welcome to the club. That coming from a charter member is quite a compliment.

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joew

May-02-13 7:50 AM

Judeye-never said God didn't love people and maybe he has a special place for us as well as the most generous people people on the planet helping the less fortunate. What do you think he might say about those that force women to wear burlap bags,not allow them to drive,vote,or go to school and beat them in public?

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Christopher

May-01-13 11:43 PM

Yes, the HEBREW bible says that, and look what it got them? And, it says "favorite people", not "favorite nation". It's no different than idiots who somehow feel God favors their sports teams.

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Marcia

May-01-13 11:29 PM

And apparently American, it's not the U.S.

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American

May-01-13 9:02 PM

"In the Hebrew Bible, (or the Tanakh), called the "Old Testament" by Christians, the "Treasured People" is the exact phrase used in the text, referring to the Hebrews/Israelites. In the Book of Deuteronomy, YHWH proclaims the Nation of Israel, known originally as the Children of Israel, as his "treasured people out of all the people on the face of the earth" (Deuteronomy 7:6)." Your wrong everyone Israel is Gods chosen nation. Yes judeye it seems as if he does have a favorite.

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Christopher

May-01-13 8:57 PM

I reread both your comment and my reply, and I don't see it being "out there" at all, and I don't see where I missed your point at all, that God should favor the US, you said that very clearly. And, the Taliban and others like them think THEIR God, Allah, favors them. There ya go, seems pretty clear to me.

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judeye

May-01-13 8:14 PM

Joe...God loves ALL the people..EQUALLY. In fact, if anything I think he has a special place for those in need.

Travel...people are people no matter what country they live.

We are ALL ONE.

We are ALL interconnected in the web of life. Just as a parent does not have a favorite child, God does not have a favorite nation, people, race, religion, etc. They are all EQUAL.

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judeye

May-01-13 8:08 PM

good grief..over how many years did they get that much in welfare. Oh went to the story..saw they counted food stamps, medicaid, housing, etc Also did you note they were NOT on any assistance when they did the bombing.

Yes I think this is a slap in the face. To have the taxpayers help them..and then they reward us by trying to harm and kill. Disgusts me.

However, to use this in any way to discuss welfare is not only unfair, but it clouds those in real need.

By the way I worked outside of Boston for several years. Lawrence as a matter of fact. Cost of things there..and I go back several decades...is VERY HIGH compared to here. $100,ooo over several years for a family does not sound out of whack by any means for living near Boston.

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American

May-01-13 8:08 PM

No not fair and that would only matter if I believed that they paid no taxes.

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judeye

May-01-13 8:01 PM

"Exxon Mobil, the most profitable of the big five oil companies, made $41.1 billion in profits last year. Although Exxon made 35 percent more profits since 2010, its estimated effective tax rate actually dropped. Citizens for Tax Justice reported Exxon paid only 17.6 percent taxes in 2010, lower than the average American, and a Reuters analysis using the same criteria estimates that Exxon will pay only 13 percent in effective taxes for 2011. Exxon paid zero taxes to the federal government in 2009."

Yep..my husband and I, on ss, pay a Higher tax rate that Exxon. Oh..and you think that is fair...or right??

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judeye

May-01-13 7:58 PM

"Second, there are those who knock themselves out trying to earn a living, pay their taxes and raise a family. These are the people who don't want to pay for the freeloaders."

Which one do I then fall into Phil? I have worked all of my adult life. I have NEVER been on public assistance, yet I worked to help many who were, get the skills needed to gain employment so they no longer needed it. My husband also has worked his entire adult life.

Do you have any idea the number of people right here in our County that receive cash assistance? How many of them are "employable" ie not disabled, elderly or otherwise unable to work?

I also realize I am where I am..not so much of what I did..but far more from the family and opportunities I was given, such as a good education. I just think EVERYONE should have that opportunity. Sorry so many these days disagree with that.

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1Laona

May-01-13 7:55 PM

Would God favor a country that gave the people freedom over those that didn't?What do you think Marcia?

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