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Memorial day: Making a call for participation

May 23, 2013

Memorial Day services will take place in a number of area communities on Monday. While it is a day of relaxation for many, it also is a day to remember....

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1Laona

May-23-13 3:10 PM

As a Veteran I'd like to invite all those who defended our country to take a trip to Albany to Protest against the NY SAFE ACT.The bus leaves from the D&F Plaza at 2:30AM on Tuesday June 11th and returns from Albany at 2:00PM.Seats on a Deluxe Bus are $50,coffee and donuts provided,stops both ways at mid-point.Must have a reservation,for info call 716-672-6210.Anyone is welcome on the bus.

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Christopher

May-23-13 6:35 PM

As a veteran, why are you assuming all veterans agree with you? What's being a veteran have to do with the issue?

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1Laona

May-23-13 6:38 PM

many do

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joew

May-23-13 7:31 PM

Roger that 1Laona! Last time stayed at the Hampton Inn(on Chapel St) two blocks from the capital. $104 for two people. Staying there again this time. And if I may Christopher----- to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic! I may have put my uniform on a hanger but not my oath!

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Dcronlg

May-24-13 8:42 AM

Don't forget to take your tea bags with you guys when you go to Albany and don't be surprised when everyone in the crowd looks like you -- meaning you gun-fringers are a serious misguided minority.

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1Laona

May-24-13 9:26 AM

DC Ron XXX,actually we don't all look alike.Doctors,Lawyers,American Legion,VFW,Soldiers,Sailors,Marines(Active Duty)will be there.If you can get your nose out of the air(not too far-then you'd be "looking down your nose at us",you can join us and report back with your findings.

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Christopher

May-24-13 11:38 AM

@ 1Laona, and many don't! And Joew, the Constitution, specifically the 2nd Amendment, ALLOWS for some Gun Control, via the words "...a well regulated Militia...". You all seem to forget that part. So, this issue has nothing to do with your oath, it has to do with your interpretation of things,. and that's a HUGE difference.

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1Laona

May-24-13 12:48 PM

Thank you for your interpretation Judge Christopher,maybe you could come to the Rally to discuss that with some of the Speakers:Judge Jeanine Pirro,former Westchester DA Dan Bongino,Carl Palidino,Radio Talk Show Host Bill Nojay and more to be added.Please don't forget to bring Judeye,DC Ron XX,Marcia as we feel the Rally would do all of them some good.

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Christopher

May-24-13 1:06 PM

Any "cause" can find a professional to support it. Any cause will also have professionals against it. Intelligent people know this.

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joew

May-24-13 1:22 PM

Christopher-there already is "some" gun control laws,actually lots of gun control laws but this "safe" act(which is the reason for the rally) is stupid and ill conceived.It was done simply as a launch platform for someones Presidential aspirations but I won't mention who for fear of seeming partisan.No interpretation is necessary either,I can see and sense the progressive agenda as plain as day!

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Christopher

May-24-13 4:33 PM

Actually, Joe, we're in agreement relative to NYS's "Safe Act". It's a stupid law, poorly conceived and of a purely political nature. But, my feeling that way is a far cry from saying that the 2nd Amendment allows for no control at all, which the majority of people fighting any and all attempts to regulate gun ownership seem to feel.

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joew

May-24-13 5:27 PM

Paul-I don't think the majority of law abiding gun owners are in opposition to some of the controls. There are lots of nut cases out there who are just more vocal. I for one am not against background checks nor am I against a mental health professional raising a red flag in certain circumstances. I think the pistol grip and extendable stock on my "assault rifle" ban is ridiculous however. If you were to attend the rally in Albany you would find that 99% of those attending are only concerned about the Government going too far as has been done in Albany. See you at the parade in Dunkirk perhaps? Please keep Duff away from me.

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Christopher

May-24-13 7:10 PM

Joew, look at the posts from American, Mikedavis and 1Laona, as they ar4e VERY representative of your average gun/2nd Amendment supporter in that they support no changes, no restrictions at all. me personally, I wouldn't care if my guns were limited to bolt actions, pump actions, 3 shot limits and revolvers for hand guns. I could hunt, target shoot and protect myself and my home just fine with any of those weapons. To fight the background checks, which the Republicans and a few spineless Democrats did in the Senate, is ludicrous! Anyway, my main concern is seriously limiting any sales without background checks. If that means all sales have to go through a dealer, fine with me. And it should be a NATIONAL law, not state by state.

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1Laona

May-24-13 8:32 PM

That's how it progresses Christopher,first the semi-autos get banned,then the bolts,then the pumps,keep backing up Paul until you reach the wall behind you.Didn't think you were that clueless.JoeW look closer to the way the background checks are to be implemented before you blindly give them your blessing.Check the SCOPE website and NYFIREARMS before you go along with what they tell you.

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joew

May-25-13 7:47 AM

1Laona- I was remiss in my statement about background checks in that I should have said I have no issue with what is currently in place.When I said "nut cases" I meant some of the losely organized militias that run around in cammies,grease paint etc playing war games. I DO NOT consider you,American,or Mike as part of that bunch.

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Christopher

May-25-13 8:36 AM

Well Joew, I have to disagree. If you read the posts from all of the people I've mentioned, many of their statements border on treason. So much for that Military Oath. And many, many posts I see from what I call "gun nuts" aren't much different than those from those wing-nut Militia groups you don't care for. I doubt any of you see how the Erie County Sheriffs refusal to enforce a law passed by the state government as dangerous either, do you? I find it to be a hugely scary position from an elected law enforcement official.

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joew

May-25-13 9:50 AM

Actually Paul the NYS Sheriffs Association is now seeking to join the lawsuit by SCOPE as well,not just the Erie CO Sheriff. How can any law enforcement official enforce that abomination in it's present form? Just one example-I make sure my magazine has 7 rounds in it but I have one in the chamber. Is that legal? People do get very passionate about certain things but that does not make them "nuts". An example is me observing someone desecrating or treating the American flag in an disrespectful manner. I tend to fly off the handle and take corrective action!

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1Laona

May-25-13 11:12 AM

"Hugely Scarey"? That he would take his oath seriously and NOT enforce the law?"I Vas just following orders",this isn't Hogan's Heros Paul,these are unconstitutional laws that shouldn't be enforced.

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Christopher

May-25-13 11:52 AM

Excuse me, 1Laona, but who says it's unconstitutional? You? Sheriff Howard? I'm a citizen, I think the law is stupid and poorly worded, but to say it's Unconstitutional is more than a bit of a stretch. The Sheriff has no business allowing his personal feelings to interfere with doing his job, which is to ENFORCE THE LAW! Being part of a lawsuit has nothing to do with enforcing the law in the meantime. That's just BS. Plus, I know him a bit. He isn't always so nervous about selective enforcement.

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joew

May-25-13 2:53 PM

I think the Sheriff is expressing his professional feelings not his personal feelings. How in he** can he ask the deputies out there to enforce a law so vague written by a bunch of Albany fruitcakes that don't know the difference between a trigger on a firearm or if it's the name of a horse.

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1Laona

May-26-13 12:26 PM

5/14/13 NY State Sheriffs Association files AMICUS CURIAE with NYSRPA in one of the lawsuits against the NY SAFE ACT.There will also be a strong showing by LEO's(Active and Retired) at the June 11th Protest against the NY SAFE ACT.

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1Laona

May-27-13 10:23 AM

5/31-6/1:Constitutional Sheriffs&Peace Officers Assn.(CSPOA)will meet to equipt Sheriffs,Peace Officers and Public Officials with info and support to carry out their oaths of office"To uphold the US Constitution-recognizing that in the case of Federal overreach the County Sheriff may be the last line of defense in protecting Americans constitutional RIGHTS(those caps were for the lefty's)

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