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Is Common Core ‘betraying’ students?

June 20, 2013

I was part of a very small group of taxpayers who heard a whitewash presentation about Common Core by a Frewsburg administrator during a morning session last month at Jackson Elementary Schoo....

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RipleyResident

Jun-24-13 12:17 PM

"NONE

I get it...

Ignorance is bliss"

you must be very happy.

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American

Jun-24-13 10:13 AM

"The publisher of this paper told me himself he cannot get COLLEGE grads who can write!" This is where you place the blame on the educators not the curriculum. Educators and parents have failed these people judeye. And if they have gotten this far without knowing how to write then they have failed themselves. Common standards or "common core" will not help this problem. Getting educators and parents that care will. Especially those educators in higher learning centers. THEY HAVE FAILED THE STUDENTS!!

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judeye

Jun-24-13 7:34 AM

NONE

I get it...

Ignorance is bliss

Thankfully some of us involved in education disagree. We tend to highly VALUE education and knowledge.

(not saying I think the common core is good..but at least I think that setting some of kind of standards is needed. Good grief without standards we would have people teaching that people and dinosaurs walked together..and that the earth is only 6,000 years old...oh wait..that be some in our congress today...)

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American

Jun-23-13 9:32 AM

She has a one track mind Ripley with a few rails that have been removed. Just typical left wing wants more government involvement in every aspect of our lives. Time to say enough is enough. Even 1/3 of the so called conservatives seem to be left wing now. It's all about the votes and removing rights, never about the people. Say no to common core.

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RipleyResident

Jun-23-13 8:59 AM

Judeye - "I notice all the disagrees...and not one response to what standards if any we should have in our schools as a Nation."

You did get a response, several times. The response is "NONE". Regardless of mandatory or optional, how many federal tax dollars were spent developing these standards that the federal gov has NO constitutional grounds to be involved in? Tax dollars paid by residents of states that don't have to adopt these standards? Ridiculous.

Segregation? Really? You are a lost cause. Without the moral compass of the democrats the country would be ruined for sure.

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judeye

Jun-23-13 8:38 AM

Common Core is NOT MANDATED. It is a set of standards that each state can..or CANNOT adopt. They are standards that have been developed to guide each state, each school, each parent, in identifying what 'core' areas the student should reach at each grade level.

I notice all the disagrees...and not one response to what standards if any we should have in our schools as a Nation.

People also used to not change jobs, did not move from state to state or school district to school district, and we were never as large of a global economy that we are now.

Do I think that some schools in some states would revert back to segregation.....WITHOUT A DOUBT.

Just google "science education lacking in America" like I just did. Study after study indicating that students in the USA..OUR CHILDREN..are well behind in science and math compared to most other countries. What is wrong with trying to increase this knowledge?

Anyone think that Creationism should be taught in schools?

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American

Jun-22-13 11:40 AM

"The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Since education is not mentioned in the Constitution, it is one of those powers reserved to the states. Of course, the United States Supreme Court can declare that something not mentioned in the Constitution is so closely related to something that is mentioned in the Constitution that the unmentioned power is a fundamental interest, which rises to constitutional protection. So far, the Supreme Court has not declared that education is a fundamental interest. Thus, states have plenary, or absolute, power in the area of education." So common core OR any federal intervention into education is a NO NO. The feds have no rights given to them by the Constitution in this.

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joew

Jun-22-13 9:16 AM

Judeye-do you really,seriously believe segregation would make a come back should states or for that matter local boards set standards?

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RipleyResident

Jun-22-13 9:11 AM

Judeye - ever heard of the constitution? It specifies what the federal government is allowed to legislate. Nothing in there about education. Or any of the other things that I have mentioned. It does however state that all people are created equal, which does counter segregation. Education and curriculum are states' issues, not federal. That should be the end of the discussion.

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judeye

Jun-22-13 8:33 AM

PR24601...my understanding of the Common Core is common standards to master in each grade. NOT HOW to get to that mastery.

For instance, in kindergarten...be able to count to 100, by ones and tens.

It does not mention at all how to get a student to this level. Nor does it say that you cannot have an advanced and slower groups. It only states that this should be the goal at the end of the year.

So if you think these goals should not be common, what if any standards do you think we should have in our educational system?

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Dcronlg

Jun-22-13 8:31 AM

PR -- ou've no idea what you're saying. EU's bankrupty has Z E R O -- nothing, nada, zilch -- to do with education systems.

Their economic situation has everything to do with the EU not having a central bank like we do in the Fed.

Only the ignorant would say something as ludicrous as your unrelated comparative.

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judeye

Jun-22-13 8:28 AM

Thank you all for showing once again that none of you have any ideas at all how to improve our educational system. All you do is complain, without offering any real solutions.

As for the states being allowed to enact whatever educational standards they want....does segregation ring a bell with anyone? Am I the only one old enough to remember the Nat Guard being called out to escort students into school? You really think those states should be permitted to violate the Constitutional rights of their residents?

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American

Jun-21-13 5:18 PM

Right on the mark PR24601. Thank you for extending my posts even better.

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PR24601

Jun-21-13 5:16 PM

To piggy-back on "American"s last comment - Common Core leads to the overall dumbing down of our kids. They aren't allowed to have an accelerated group anymore, they aren't allowed to have a remedial group anymore. The libs insisted that the remedials had to be matriculated into the global class.

The result of all this is that you reach to the lowest common denominator. If the teachers have to ensure your 75-80 IQ students are at the level of the 120-150 IQ students, the only method to do so is put everyone on the lowest tract.

Meaning - high-achieving students get bored, and fill their time with nonsense. Those in the middle are made to think they are smart and then reality hits when they enter college and real world. And the remedials still just don't get it. Bingo, recipe for overall academic stupidity.

Rather, get the remedials into something suited for their aptitude, try to get the middle to raise their game, and allow the high end to excel.

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American

Jun-21-13 4:09 PM

Why does anyone think a one size fits all education would be good? Students do not all learn at the same exact levels and should not be taught as if they were cattle being herded to slaughter. What was wrong with being taught at the various levels as they did when many of us went to school? Why should that kid with a 100 IQ be taught the same as the one with a 150 IQ? Nothing good will come of common core BS.

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Kristopher

Jun-21-13 3:22 PM

COMMON CORE is POISON, and MUST be STOPPED!!!

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American

Jun-21-13 1:16 PM

"Common Core is cookie-cutter education is not just an American phenomenon. Globalists want it, too. And they don’t care if some people lose academically or financially, so long as everyone ends up the same. The very same."

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American

Jun-21-13 1:14 PM

"“Education for All” is a United Nations project that uses the same catch phrases used by Common Core proponents in the United States. For instance, the stated goals of the Global Monitoring Report (GMR) –which of course, sound good on the surface– mirror recent U.S. education reforms: Emphasizing equity. Emphasizing measurability. Emphasizing finance."

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American

Jun-21-13 1:14 PM

"Equity – Education For All promotes the redistribution of world wealth so that ultimately, no locality or individual has ownership over his/her own earnings, and global government owns all, so that global government can ensure fair distribution to all. This is not voluntary sharing; this is punishable, forced redistribution– it is legalized stealing of local taxes, by governments abroad.

Measurability – this means increased surveillance and testing of all teachers and students so that all can be compared and controlled by the global governance.

Finance – In the powerpoint presentation that was given at a Brussels, Belgium meeting last month, ‘Education post-2015: Equity, measurability and finance’, you can see that it is the United States that is being told to “donate” to make this global educational governance possible. Annually, the U.S. should “donate” 53 billion, the powerpoint presentation states."

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RipleyResident

Jun-21-13 1:00 PM

Judeye - The federal gov is far to involved in everything. Border security, gun control, healthcare, welfare, and education. The states should individually determine these things. As Christopher said, if you don't like what a state has to offer, don't live there. Federal government is far too big.

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judeye

Jun-21-13 8:29 AM

what standards should we have? Any?

The publisher of this paper told me himself he cannot get COLLEGE grads who can write! To me that is a disgrace.

How would any of you fix it, if not by using some kind of standards, of where the kids should be at each grade level?

With all the moving around, company transfers, and the unity we need as a country in order to compete on the international market, I think it is imperative we have standards as one COUNTRY. I would hate to be transferred to a state that teaches that the world is really only 6,000 years old.

Before you just click disagree...answer what you would do to improve the outcomes of our schools if not using some core standards.

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American

Jun-20-13 10:10 PM

All I was doing was trying to get you to stop calling people cowards because they don't do like you do. Is that a bad thing? Must be 90% on here are cowards under that thinking. But I will still call you Christopher without bastardizing your name. I'll be the bigger person.

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Christopher

Jun-20-13 8:43 PM

See "Murikin", I was trying to be nice and then you had to go be a jerk again. I give up.

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American

Jun-20-13 4:39 PM

Yes I made that ID just to stop your asinine calling people cowards who don't use real name. Now that I have maybe you will grow up and stop. Have a great day.

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American

Jun-20-13 4:36 PM

Nah don't do reunions. To many drunks there.

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