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Raising county salaries has always been contentious

June 23, 2013

By LIZ SKOCZYLAS OBSERVER Mayville Bureau MAYVILLE — The creation of a Salary Review Commission is a relatively recent addition to the Chautauqua County Charter. In 1986, Carl O....

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commentor

Jun-23-13 8:00 AM

Yup sure looks like they don't do it for the money. How about paying them per meeting they attend. That would cut a bunch. Voters pay them and have nothing to say about what that pay is. If you are not a public worker your boss decides your pay not you. "Let's step into the 21st century"...I agree with that and what is that....millions losing jobs and wage freezes....that's the 21st century!!!

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PhilJulian

Jun-23-13 9:27 AM

You might think Chautauqua County is growing and prosperous but it is not. The truth is that we are losing population, losing employers and losing our quality of life. If county government were a private enterprise the leadership would all be fired for non-performance. Why should we reward people for non-performance with pay raises? At my last count there are 17 employees paid over $75,000 with some over $100,000 including the D.A. and child psychiatrist. If these 17 people don't like what they are being paid they should quit and find another employer. In the final analysis they work for the taxpayers and the taxpayers should have some input as to what they are paid. We have serious problems in this county and lack of leadership is a big part of the problem.

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Chuck392

Jun-23-13 10:29 AM

All employees everywhere should make minimum wage -- that would solve everything. Factory workers, doctors, teachers, CEO's - everyone. That's the ticket.

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Chuck392

Jun-23-13 10:36 AM

"If county government were a private enterprise the leadership would all be fired for non-performance."

Nope. I see all kinds of per performance in the private sector. In fact I'd say it is a huge problem. People holding, and keeping, jobs that don't know up from down. It's horrible.

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Chuck392

Jun-23-13 10:37 AM

"Poor" not "per."

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Captain

Jun-23-13 10:52 AM

Elected reps receive a salary, thus can NOT negotiate pay raises. They know the deal BEFORE running for office. The same goes for ANY person who pursues a particular job, a key difference, however, is that private employees can be discharged for poor performance, whereas elected reps can not. They can literally do nothing and still get paid! If the pay is too low, why did you run in the first place?

To allow a "bipartisan" committee (of elected reps) to decide whether or not a pay raise is warranted is like having a local BOE with all public ED employees on it.

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Carlaw

Jun-23-13 11:19 AM

Commentor, Phil, Captain you all make such good points. Chuck I agree that some in the private sector keep jobs but do very little. It can be that way everywhere, but to want to pay everyone the same wage sounds like the Communist Manifesto and we all know how that turned out. I hope you were kidding. :)

The statement: "Let's get real" from one of the legislators was very chilling and simplistic. Hopefully it was just careless speech. Getting real and into the 21st Century now means an America not as prosperous or secure as our parents and all because of government spending. How could you not know this??

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Chuck392

Jun-23-13 3:47 PM

"I hope you were kidding. :)"

Yep. Tongue in cheek caused by the frustration of hearing "everyone should receive no raise.... except me."

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Chuck392

Jun-23-13 3:54 PM

"... all because of government spending."

Much of this spending was a result of public demand. Look at the grants that popped up over the last 50 years, both at the State and Federal level. All because we started to expect it, then it grew out of control. Try to start cutting programs and hear the public outcry. Catch 22.

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Captain

Jun-23-13 10:05 PM

"I see all kinds of poor performance in the private sector."

The key difference in the private sector is it's the business owner's problem, and no one else! He can't go to the taxpayers and demand more money to help run his business every time labor costs rise. This is what our elected reps do, they do it w/o our consent, and they're the ones who approve higher wages!

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DarkStar

Jun-24-13 7:26 AM

"...Try to start cutting programs and hear the public outcry. Catch 22..."

True, but if we don't want to go the way of Greece then we need the government needs to cut it's spending, especially since there will be no one to bail us out the way everyone did Greece (again and again.)

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PhilJulian

Jun-24-13 9:51 AM

CHUCK392 - the private sector is controlled by competition. When costs rise above the competition a business can't just increase the price of the product. Either you raise the level of productivity or you follow the plight of Kodak in Rochester where thousands have lost their jobs and the company fails. There is no comparison between the public and private sector. The public sector has the freedom to raise taxes to cover pay raises but, as is the case with Chautauqua County, they eventually go out of business because they can't compete.

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DarkStar

Jun-24-13 2:42 PM

Phil,

That describes exactly the reason I oppose public employees being able to unionize.

The unions use their collective power to elect those who will give them the sweetest deal and the taxpayers are left holding the bag and have their money taken to support the out of control spending.

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