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Plan does not lower taxes

June 24, 2013

Start Up NY, formerly Tax Free NY, is not altogether a bad idea....

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concerned

Jun-27-13 7:58 PM

Not to worry this business zone around the college will only create a bunch of new bars and pizza joints anyway.

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shofuh

Jun-26-13 7:16 AM

Thats the problem, we should be able to be educational competitive at a cheaper cost. It should be easy for schools to reduce rates with mergers and still have a good educational standard. The issue is that thise in charge will never allow it. Current plans will end up raising taxes in the long run, but like you said, you dont care, you just want more more more.

Property taxes are one of the biggest tax burdens we have and is a major reason business does not exist in the state. But you don't care. I guess you will be happy when nothing is left and we educated your kids so they could move elsewhere and get a job. The future of Chautauqua County is basically a state forest.

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RipleyResident

Jun-25-13 9:05 PM

School mergers are an entirely different thing. They are not so much about cost savings as they are about educational opportunities. If you want real cost savings in public schools, the state needs to stop issuing unfunded mandates, issuing grants that are unnecessary and districts need to stop funding retirements.

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shofuh

Jun-25-13 6:17 PM

None of the school merger plans will lower taxes either, but I don't see the observer denouncing those plans. In fact, due to the state grants that would be part if the deal (and that is still tax money) the tax burden will eventually go up. Observer = local common denominator, in terms of intelligence.

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PR24601

Jun-25-13 12:04 PM

@concerned - how dare you ask a legitimate question like that. Don't you know it's Darwin economics out there? Of course existing establishments will die off, but it's all in the name of highlighting the benefits of King Cuomo's golden wand. Never mind that every business that succeeds will probably replace one that closes due to the legislation.

That's how to get ahead in NYS - wait until the money rolls in and take advantage of the system. Doing things the "right way" just gets you sent packing sooner than later.

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concerned

Jun-24-13 9:41 PM

What if you are a small to medium business fighting to survive in this over taxed state and all of a sudden a competitor starts up tax free? Who is going to control this from happening and destroying existing establishments?

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PR24601

Jun-24-13 10:09 AM

If I owned a business I'd be furious. Of course, that would be if I hadn't left the state already. The state shouldn't be in the business of cherry-picking what areas are going to have economic success.

Taxes for all business should go down, then there would be no need for these tax-free economic zones. Goods would be less expensive, consumers numerous, and business would thrive.

But - who else is going to pay for the great welfare state? They keep taxing (pun intended) the native NY'ers - business ownsers, property owners, and wage earners with the burden.

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PhilJulian

Jun-24-13 9:29 AM

If were looking for a TEMPORY place to set up shop I might consider this proposal. How do they explain to an existing business that a new competitor down the road will not have to pay taxes and is that fair? New York State needs and extreme make-over but the special interests are so deeply entrenched and the politics are so corrupt that I don't see any hope for the forseeable future.

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DKexpat

Jun-24-13 8:43 AM

Agree with Chuck392. I wonder if they guess-timated how many new jobs might be created in tax-free zones versus the jobs lost by existing companies now put at a competitive disadvantabe...

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Steiner

Jun-24-13 8:37 AM

the tax free zones are located near universities, keeping businesses tied to the govt apron string. Of course the govt employee built everything , right libs ? The area is in decline , I believe on purpose. To drive the people into large cities. This has been talked about in europe to reduce carbon footprint. The decline has been going on since the late 70's. It shows no signs of stopping. To all kids graduating, look elsewhere ASAP as there are no jobs for you in WNY.

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Chuck392

Jun-24-13 6:41 AM

Correct line of thinking. The first order of economic development is retaining what you already have. Typically it is easier to retain what you have than it is to recruit someone new. Unfortunately this doesn't get done often. Trying to retain NRG is a good example of how it should be done. Unfortunately, most of the tools needed to accomplish what's needed are located in Albany, not Chautauqua County.

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