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Dunkirk: No one wants council’s job

August 12, 2013

Two Dunkirk Common Council candidates, while discussing the NRG issue and its backing of a grant for a water district on a WDOE radio “Viewpoint” program, got a little carried away when discussing......

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Mason1

Aug-15-13 7:14 PM

Maybe Weiner or Spitzer will take advantage of the opportunity. Unfortuantly the office of politician has become tainted by the lack of professionalism and integrety that should set a high standard. Not many want to associate themselves with this profession. Often leaving the candidacy open for the next village idiot.

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PR24601

Aug-14-13 11:22 AM

I'd run, but my platform would involve drastic cuts, and an all-out war on the undesirables and their slumlords in this city. I know we can't take away the benefits they've been handed by NYS, but we sure as*****can make life difficult for those that kill quality of life for the rest of us.

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hadenough

Aug-14-13 9:31 AM

Why does no one want to run for city council? Dunkirk is a sinking ship. Would jump on board a sinking ship? There is nothing the council does that could change the city. They have no say in union negotiations. Most deals are done in the mayors office and are rubber stamped by the council at their meetings. So you see it is the system not the people that has gotten us to this point.

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FedUpTaxpayer

Aug-13-13 11:15 PM

PhilJulian has it right, imo. "People with intelligence have already left so there is no one here to run for office who is worthy of our trust." There are still a few left but leaving WNY at an alarming rate. I've never seen so many moving sales this year, which I go to and most I talk to are all leaving the area. No jobs, high taxes and nothing to do with leisure time. He'll, I was at Walmart last night talking to the clerk who said they are at 25% work force. Notice how sparse Walmart is? Almost not enough customers to keep them in business, unless you include the food stamps and wic users I seem to get stuck behind at the check out. As much as we all love Dunkirk, Fredonia and Chat county, we can't fix what is wrong. Only government can and they haven't got a clue. Look at the wider picture and you can see the county is in big trouble. Every town and city is in decline. Real estate is so slow law firms are leaving that area of practice. If they don't re-power NRG...RIP WN

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Christopher

Aug-13-13 7:15 AM

LOL!

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Carlaw

Aug-13-13 5:24 AM

When there is no opposition in Chautauqua Co. these days it usually means that all the smart young, energetic, idealistic people of any political party are long gone and have found a better place to live.

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PhilJulian

Aug-12-13 9:10 PM

Robert - why don't you come out of the shawdows and reveal your identity so we might better understand some of your stupid comments.

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robert

Aug-12-13 8:15 PM

"People with intelligence have already left so there is no one here to run for office who is worthy of our trust. " I guess this means you stayed eh? Those darn Unions again eh Phil? Didn't you work in a local industry that modeled their salary contract on what the Union received?? Hmmmmm kinda like you let the union do the heavy lifting and you got the reward while risking nothing hmmmmm

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PR24601

Aug-12-13 3:28 PM

Never mind - i'm an idiot. I'm sure some of you would agree with that. They *'d out r-e-d-n-e-c-k. Hah! Oh well. I'd probably be considered a red neck myself. If that means being a conservative, high-value, gun-loving, American then sure thing. Call me that all day.

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PR24601

Aug-12-13 3:25 PM

Now it's not *'d out. Unbelievable. Minority. Minority. Minority. GOP. Minority. GOP minority vote. Minion. Munion. Munition. Muneration. Minoritization.

I give up.

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PR24601

Aug-12-13 3:23 PM

Apparently you can't say "minority vote".. although it's a perfectly acceptable phrase in political conversation, such as "we would expect Obama to carry the minority vote".

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PR24601

Aug-12-13 3:22 PM

Wow.. "m i n o r i t y" is ****'d out now?

Who's running this ragtag operation at observertoday-dot-com. Give me a break. What if I said that there was a majority opinion and a minority opinion, or that the non-Bills fans in Chautauqua County are in the minority? Or quite simply, whites are not a minority, despite the high Hispanic presence here. Are all those going to be asterisk'd out as well?

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PR24601

Aug-12-13 3:20 PM

There's a boatload of "experts" on this comment board daily with the know-it-all-ness to run Dunkirk. Right?

Crickets.

That's what I thought. A lot of complaining, not a lot of "doing". If you care that much, then go out and change something.

As much as I vehemently disagree with Dcronlg, he/she has it right that we are responsible for what we've elected into office, and we obviously don't care enough to change the status quo, or we would.

Personally, I'd love to fix DK. Unfortunately my platform for "fixing" it won't get me elected in the minority circles. A GOP'er can't carry the town on the backs of the ******* vote alone. I also don't have the time between family, work, and recreation. That's why I also don't chime in on many political discussions - I'm not going to put in the elbow grease myself, so I really can't complain.

There are probably a lot in my same boat. And then there are those with a lot of hot air and not much else.

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225522

Aug-12-13 2:55 PM

The answer to "fix" the problems will require tough decisions that many of the citizens would cry bloody murder about. The other BIG PROBLEM is jobs! Jobs would go a long way to get Dunkirk back on track. The City Council has very little, if any real impact, on this need. Far western N.Y. is and has been on the decline for many years. It would appear that in not about to change. Sad but true IMHO.

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PhilJulian

Aug-12-13 9:19 AM

Why would anyone want to be a part of a dysfunctional organization? The only incumbent councilperson who displays any intelligence is Stephanie Kiyak and she faces resistance on every issue. I would like to see someone from the business community step forward and run but let's be honest - local elections are nothing but popularity contests. The best jobs in Dunkirk are on the city payroll but no candidate has the guts to say that out loud. Union contracts are at the foundation of our problems but again, no one has the guts to try to change those contracts. There is really only one solution to the city's problems and that is to dissolve the city charter and become part of the town or county government. People with intelligence have already left so there is no one here to run for office who is worthy of our trust.

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markindunkirk

Aug-12-13 8:52 AM

According to the law, if a member of council participates in union negotiations, that person MUST vote yes on whatever contract is brought before council. In other words, if you get involved, you forfeit your right to vote no and reject a contract. Which is preferable? That's up to the individual...but you can't have it both ways. As for the rest of your statement, it's full of generalities...please be specific! Oh, and one more thing...there ARE two council-members who DO go against the mayor...they're just often outnumbered 3-2.

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FredoniaFred

Aug-12-13 8:46 AM

Marcia, when a party fails to put up a candidate it usually means that the party in power so outnumbers the opposing party in numbers that the other party has little chance of winning.

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hadenough

Aug-12-13 8:36 AM

What has the council accomplished during their term? Nothing. No hard decisions were made. Look at city spending? What did the finance committee do? Nothing. Money was asked for and received. There were major purchases made that the finance committee was unaware of. Those on the council will not go against the mayor. Kind of like the congress and the president. So what does the voter get? Same stuff you got the last ten years. Out of control spending. How many council members actually sat in on union negotiations? Ah what's the use.

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Marcia

Aug-12-13 8:35 AM

I meant runs not rounds. And to expand my statement, taxes to pay salaries which has nothing to do with why no one is running. Seriously, do you really think that someone says to themselves, I'd like to run for office because I think I can contribute to my community but I won't because those workers get paid too much.?!

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Marcia

Aug-12-13 8:28 AM

When a candidate round unopposed it usually indicates the other party does not have a problem with their performance. It happens often in local government. And what does your last statement about taxes have to go with it? Or are just unable to ever editorialize without mentioning taxes?

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Dcronlg

Aug-12-13 8:07 AM

This is representative democracy at work -- deal with it.

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rumblefish

Aug-12-13 7:00 AM

in hindsight qualified candidates won't run because they see the ship sinking and they know that they can't make a difference and that is truly sad for a city that was a great place to live

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rumblefish

Aug-12-13 6:46 AM

lets face facts the only way to save the taxpayer is to dissolve the charter and start fresh, the first order of business would to hire a city/town/ village manager and make all the other positions honorary

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