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Status quo kept in Dunkirk School tax rates

August 15, 2013

Households with children attending school in the Dunkirk City School District will not see any changes in their tax rates for the upcoming school year....

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judeye

Aug-17-13 8:26 AM

Why is it that when state and federal money is included so that the budget balances we all think it is great. Yet when federal money is used to balance the County home you all rush to scream oh it is taxpayers money

Do you not see..almost every major service we have in this County also receives state and federal money. To me that is good. It is how we get a return on the taxes we pay. Why so many have difficulty seeing this for the County Home as well is beyond comprehension.

Marketing..Pr..depends on who is saying it..and how it is said.

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commentor

Aug-16-13 9:14 PM

Does anyone find it a little odd that all other schools are having money problems yet Dunkirk year after year can maintain the status quo. No tax increase. I would then guess that NRG going out should not impact them at all. Something is not adding up here.

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PhilJulian

Aug-16-13 4:19 PM

rr1956 - you make a good point but keep in mind that most of that construction expense is covered by state aid. in that period from 2007 to 2013 the capital component increased by $3.3 million or 84%, the program component increased by $1.9 million or 7%. The administrative component increased from $3.3 million to $4.3 million or 30%. It would be interesting to know how the construction element impacted those figure. Assuming capital improvements are kept in a subsidiary ledger, how do those expenses and state revenues impact the overall budget and spending?

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Captain

Aug-16-13 3:33 PM

"...this district does a horrible job managing money!"

Not sure if that's true or not, but I'll say this, BOE members AND the DTA know exactly how much money there is each year (after NYS releases state aid figures), and they spend it as they see fit. And whenever a year-ending surplus occurs, any "extra money" is quickly tucked away into a "reserve acct" (to be used later, possibly as the primary source for future pay raises?).

A formal public notice should be issued, and taxpayers credited, whenever a surplus occurs, instead offering us a "stable" school tax bill.

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commentor

Aug-16-13 10:59 AM

I believe the statement was in reference to the star program. The Enhanced Star program is senior citizens who have no children in school and of course they will get a hit.

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baseball

Aug-16-13 9:55 AM

31.4 million is paid for by someone else, not a bad deal, still does not take away from the fact that this district does a horrible job managing money!

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baseball

Aug-16-13 9:51 AM

Thanks to NRG and New York State giving the school a lot of money! What will happen if NRG pulls out!

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rr1956

Aug-16-13 9:47 AM

Phil, i think much of that increase you stated was payment to construction. It was stated during budget. That money comes in and goes out, but must be part of the yearly budget

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hadenough

Aug-16-13 9:32 AM

Wonderful the school tax is staying the same. Now that has to be money management at its best. Now I have a question. What happens when the money dries up from NRG? With a $40 million budget who is going to make up the difference. Mr. Thiel? Spending being at $20,000 per student is absolutely ridiculous. Who or what is going to make up the difference? Looks like the students are going to have to have a lot of bake sales to make up the shortage. Typical administrative talk. Paint a rosy picture today and stick it to the people tomorrow.

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Captain

Aug-16-13 9:03 AM

If we're only talking about no increase in taxes, then yes, Mr Thiel's comment about being "as stable as it gets" is "technically" correct. However, the steady decline in student enrollments must also be factored in to reach a more accurate conclusion.

To put it another way, even if the BOE agreed that a cut in staff was warranted as a result of declining enrollments, yet contractual pay raises wipe out any "real" savings that such cuts would've provided, then the cost to taxpayers would remain "steady", but the student cost ratio actually increases.

A biased "presentation" is the key to winning public support.

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PhilJulian

Aug-16-13 9:03 AM

It is true that school tax rates have been stable for the past six years and we can be grateful for that. However, that doesn't mean spending is under control. The 2007-08 budget total was $34,633,803 while the 2013-14 budget is $40,923,396. That is an increase of $6,289,593 or 18% over the six year period. Spending per student is nearly $20,000 at the current rate and that would seem to be very excessive.

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Dcronlg

Aug-16-13 8:31 AM

Concerned: no, they don't -- proofreading isn't very high on the the clueless church lady gaggle's list.

Neither is pausing to read what they think, as 9 times out of 10, its really quite embarrassing how gap-toothed ignorant, uninformed and pedestrian their barefooted hillbilly beliefs are.

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DarkStar

Aug-16-13 8:29 AM

concerned,

You beat me it, I was going to say the same thing.

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concerned

Aug-16-13 7:17 AM

After reading the first paragraph of this article you would think the only people paying school taxes are those with children attending Dunkirk schools. Does anyone at the disturber proof read what they print??

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