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Learning the work ethic

August 20, 2013

As a lad I was taught that you had a duty to make yourself useful. I had a lot of jobs between the age of 13 and 18. Most of them I have listed. I’ll minimize comment or I would fill the pag....

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joew

Aug-25-13 9:16 PM

Since when Robot do retirees and military not pay taxes?

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robert

Aug-25-13 9:12 AM

Where can these kids work? Virtually every job that gets mentioned in this article is gone now. Paper routes? Adults in cars do that now. Part time work at Tops or Mcdonalds is about all that's left. Nowadays we cart our kids to swimming, soccer, baseball, football, band, dance, gymnastics and even karate. they have no time to "work" LOL

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robert

Aug-24-13 7:43 AM

."At class reunioins we just cannot believe what the libs did." that is a scary thought, a whole class of Steiners?

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robert

Aug-24-13 7:41 AM

Get your Social Security statement and apply what you put in all your working life and then figure a modest interest rate of, say 5%, over your lifetime; interest rates were almost double that back in the 20th .......really? you should try the math, no way you give more than you receive. And 10%??? where did you invest??

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robert

Aug-24-13 7:38 AM

FOX first when reporting facts??? you must be joking? Most of their "headlines" end in a question mark. they put out more opinion, guess work and just plain lies than the rest of the news orgs combined.

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robert

Aug-24-13 7:36 AM

sorry stan, your pal Romney said "the 47% that pay no taxes" that includes retirees, military you name it.

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joew

Aug-23-13 3:27 PM

Cant say as I blame them DKexpat given the current demographics.

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DKexpat

Aug-22-13 8:45 PM

I guess the abbreviation for Lake Shore Drive makes the censors think of drugs. LOL

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DKexpat

Aug-22-13 8:44 PM

Summers...

I remember riding my bike to the employment office on ***, hoping into the back of a farmer's pickup, and going out to some [fill in the blank] field to work all day.

Strawberries were 8 cents a quart I could make $5/day for 8-9 hours' work if it was a "first pick" field. (I forget what tomatoes, cherries and apples were.)

Grapes 35 cents a crate, and you could pick 40-50 crates in a day - that's where the "big bucks" were! (Plus, although you had to bend down, it beat kneeling in a field all day with no shade.)

I talk to kids around here about that, and thy think "picking fruit" means which grocery store you're going to.

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stangv8

Aug-22-13 12:50 PM

Judeye, we all knew exactly how Romney and Ryan were talking about. They weren't talking about those who gave and are now receiving what they earned. They were talking about those who have no skin in the game but are receiving all the benefits. You know that, so why do you say otherwise?

Ryan never called for Social Security to be eliminated. My Gosh! Social Security is what saved his family after his father died. He told of it continually. Please, get off the liberal blogs and websites and find out what was actually said...use a reliable source. I always use left leaning news sites because you would never believe Fox although they're usually first when reporting facts.

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judeye

Aug-22-13 9:08 AM

As liberal as I am, we are also very old fashioned, conservative on many things in my family.

We insist on eating dinner together around the table. We insist on praying..or at least saying thank you...before eating. We insist on manners and our grandchildren to show respect to others, especially their elders and people in authority.

We make them WORK just for being part of the family. We let them go outside to play and do not worry if they fall down once in awhile. We turn off the tv and video games often forcing them to play make believe. We also play games with them and do not allow them to cheat.

I wished they had a stricter dress code in school and teachers given more authority to react when they are being smart alerts.

We can move forward without throwing out many of the old ways that we were raised on. We just need to judge which ones to throw out (like smoking) and which ones to keep (like respect).

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judeye

Aug-22-13 9:01 AM

Thank You all...I agree...social security is NOT the same as welfare.

Yet some do want to make it a means test..Heritage Foundation for one. Where you would have to show that you 'needed' it. Something that most of us working people would find very insulting and humiliating. (at least we would in my family).

Others like Romney and Ryan have called those who do not pay federal income taxes "takers". No one pays federal income taxes on their social security benefits. Now we do pay taxes on our investments, but for the ss we are considered 'takers'.

Ron Paul has called ss welfare and wants it to be totally eliminated!

It is time for us to unite as one on this issue and tell all of them that ss is a good program that helps seniors survive. Many of us DEPEND on it for living expenses each month. Just raise the income cut off level. Easy quick fix.

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Steiner

Aug-22-13 8:25 AM

judeye, you have not answered anything relevant. Just feel good stuff. On the coldest days, I will use about 700,000 btu/day to keep the house warm.I would need a 22KW electricity equivalent to heat the house.There aint no sun here in the winter. A windmill is 3 MW. divide 3 million watts by 22000 and one gets 137. One windmill will heat 137 homes if the wind is at 20 mph. How in blazes name, after your hubby worked in gas industry do you think wind and solar can fill the bill here.Answer, the dumb libs, the ones christopher says do not have any responsibilty for the damage on society dulled your thinking down. christopher is amazing, the party in power has no responsibilty for the outcome of their policies. wow, sign me up. No wonders the KKK flourished under democratic control. They were not responsible for what happened !

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Steiner

Aug-22-13 8:12 AM

the posts here are amazing ! What party has run the schools ? libs . What party pushes for all the so called rights ? libs. What party race baits and divides america at every turn, libs. yet, the posters here say it is not the liberals fault.What party sunk the inner city folk, the libs. Golly you libs just cannot think. Proof ? You believe in the nonsense global warming, that govt invented everything and the govt employee makes america work. utter nonsense. cronigs famous liberal largess things are funded from tax payments and that aint the govt employee. . An amazing amount of junk thought posted here by the libs.where am i wrong on this liberals ?

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American

Aug-21-13 9:05 PM

No one who draws SSD or SS retirement or a veterans pension need to be considered a taker. It is those that draw SSI and welfare (SSI is federal welfare) that are the takers. Your husband earned every dime he gets and then some.

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stangv8

Aug-21-13 6:49 PM

Judeye, I'm sorry but your husband isn't a "proud taker". Rather, he's a proud working American who getting a small portion of what was taken from him back...He's a Proud Giver. Unfortunately, those who would insult him are the ones you continually defend here. Working men and women never insult those who are receiving their just rewards for a lifetime of contributing to a system they had no choice in. Only a few more years and I'll be proudly collecting my first Social Security check...a small pittance of what I could have had.

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joew

Aug-21-13 4:23 PM

Judeye no one should ever insult your husband for collecting what he earned. I will for one go to bat for anyone who contributes and then reaps their just rewards in the twilight years. Make no mistake about that!

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American

Aug-21-13 12:28 PM

Judeye @ Aug-21-13 7:50 AM One of the very few things you have said I can agree with. A lot of kids and young adults today have no work ethic. Between parents giving them all they want and government (as adults) giving them free handouts they see no need to. I have a grandson that I raised and got into a heated "discussion" with his high school counselor because she made the statement in front of him to me that kids should not have to work because school work is enough for them to handle. At the time he wanted to get a part time stocking job at TOPS and she convinced him otherwise. So yes I do blame the school systems for at least a good part of kids being the way they are.

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stangv8

Aug-21-13 9:52 AM

Dcronig, apparently you have no concept of what Social Security and Medicare are. If Steiner is collecting on them, it’s because he paid into those systems all his adult life. That’s HIS money he’s getting back, not your money or the taxpayers money. There’s a new concept out called math. Learn it and you’ll be surprised. Get your Social Security statement and apply what you put in all your working life and then figure a modest interest rate of, say 5%, over your lifetime; interest rates were almost double that back in the 20th century. Oh, don’t forget to add in your employer’s contribution too. You’ll be amazed to see that you would have been a millionaire by time you were 60. You’ll be lucky if you get even close to $200,000 of your money back by time you die. That’s YOUR money, not taxpayers money.

Christopher...BINGO!

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Steiner

Aug-21-13 9:43 AM

christophers analytical skills are gone. Who is behind the you have rights mantra ? Duh christopher, its the liberals. What role model do they represent over and over in the media ? Why that of mussolini. He said genius lies in the private parts. I am making the words pretty here. What do the libs say over and over ? Racism and choice for abortions. No choice for schools, just abortions . A smaller segment of society for sure. But it shows where the libs minds are. The private parts of a human, just like mussolini a great leftist. thats why ya hate the tea party so bad libs, they use the other end of the spinal cord.Proof ?, leading dems caught up in sex scandals, clintons, kennedys, san diego mayor, weiner, etc.we have found the mind of the libs folks and it aint that impressive, just animal like.This animal like mind, always growling, ranting etc, like all the bear attacks lately is an accurate description of a liberal.intelligence lacking humans, those libs.

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Christopher

Aug-21-13 8:58 AM

One would have to blame the more Liberal among us for kids not having the work ethic of yore. Lack of discipline and parenting is the cause. Don't blame Government per se, or political parties, blame lawyers and the "system milkers".

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Steiner

Aug-21-13 8:47 AM

hey judeye and the libs. Watch "me tv." see the ads on it from the 60's. kids playing with guns. I had BB guns as a kid.neighbors had 22s. Took pocket knives to school. i remember my dad saying if I ever pointed the BB gun at anyone, loaded or not he would tan my behind.Today he would be arrested for that. Liberals you know. all of this destroyed the work ethic and respect for others. Played cops and robbers. Shot tin cans and old tv sets. Judeye, take everything you hold dear and trash it. we will get the work ethic back. stop playing class warfare as Hillary clinton is doing launching her prez bid. libs like you judeye wrecked the america i knew.At class reunioins we just cannot believe what the libs did. Rich people bad,govt did everything, spying on us, making us buy certain products, all from the libs. super mommies got into govt and wrecked it.

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DKexpat

Aug-21-13 8:41 AM

joew - I forgot about that green wagon w/ white lettering. Nice...!

And remember taking calendars around every December hoping for at lest a 25-cent tip? The really nice people - the ones who got their paper in the door instead of the bushes - would tip a whole dollar!

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Steiner

Aug-21-13 8:26 AM

judeye, please tell us as cronig wont, where exactly does the money the govt doles out in its numerous benefits arise from ? Do you know ?

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Steiner

Aug-21-13 8:24 AM

judeye, the libs declared war on the fathers. trying to pander to the women, to get their votes. I was afraid of my father growing up. I respected him.Put the fathers back at the head of the households. women just cannot think like a man, facts judeye, not misogyny. He worked, my mother was a stay at home mom. I never was hungry and the rules were clearly spelled out for us kids. Now the libs show up and the kids have all these rights. the libs screwed it up judeye. i was spanked in school. thats child abuse say the libs. Basically take the modern liberal state and dismantle it and you will instill the work ethic into the young.This is illegal now, thanks to people like you.lower the minimum wage too as it just destroys jobs.it was meant to keep low priced minority labor out of the market. It has worked just great. 50% unemployment in the cities. Oh, make english the official language . It is in science and business. stop pandering to people.

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