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Great Lakes: Stable levels debunk issue

August 22, 2013

Climate alarmists have a new toy with which to play — but it may not be as pleasing as they hope....

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LilrudSteven

Aug-26-13 5:23 PM

Apparently Steiner you failed this quiz. That was an easy one so until you show us you know what you're talking about, don't waste our time. You lost more points with the creationist comment .

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Steiner

Aug-26-13 8:20 AM

remember steven, people like you said we were cooling the planet to an ice age via mans activities, dust in the air. this in the 60's and 70's. they were adamant in this like they are now. That was bunk and so is co2 .

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Steiner

Aug-26-13 8:18 AM

steven, you dont undertand analytical chemistry. All compounds have an infra red signature. Co2 has but a very tiny one. Water has a huge one. burning yields water and co2. To worry about co2 and not water or to claim no water arises from burning is no science at all. My steinertrons proven in lab and field tests. There are people in the world who actually think, analytical chemists are one of them.this sinks manmade climate change on the spot. analytical chemistry freed casey anthony. They showed no death chemical the state claimed was there. People were upset, but people dont understand science, just emotion. its that simple steven, the chemists know it but the libs dont. By all the mocks i get, for sure i know the posters dont understand what chemists do or what is already known. the libs have done their job.

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Steiner

Aug-26-13 8:12 AM

steven, you are ignorant. Co2 absorbs just before where methane does. If the libs say methane absorbs and it does and so does water, then the tiny amount co2 does is overwhelmed by the water in air. There is always more water in air, even in a desert. Look at the large temp swings in the desert. steven, it was the analytical chemists who clued me into this. It is not just me. You libs have a problem with that. This test is a std in industry an empirical observation in nature proves it. You dont understand the conversations between einstein and bohr how the world we live in, newtonian, arises from an indeterminate world.anyone versed in science would know right away what i am saying here. This would include life and the weather. this sinks global warming on the spot. My steinertron machines energize gasoline to give 25% extra MPG. No chemicals, pure energy.Darwin did not believe and does not suppoort these kinds of machines, but i built them anyways.

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LilrudSteven

Aug-25-13 4:48 PM

How can you disagree with a question?

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LilrudSteven

Aug-25-13 4:15 PM

Steiner, a test. A what wavelength does carbon dioxide absorb heat energy?

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LilrudSteven

Aug-25-13 4:12 PM

All that writing and still no valid argument to support your position. A little background on your steinertron please or you'll be just another angry old guy I know all about these experiments you bring up. They don't discredit man made climate change.

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Steiner

Aug-25-13 10:24 AM

simply put for the ignorant liberals. If one knocks out a key term in a theory the theory falls. CO2 does not absorb heat. It is very nearly transparent to it.Water hugely traps heat. This by infra red and everyday life, boil water liberals. burning adds water to air and co2. water overwhelms the co2. the libs just cant think anymore. this is simple enough for any lib to understand.Co2 induced climate change kaputs on the spot. Something else is going on. can you libs understand such a simple thing ?

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Steiner

Aug-25-13 9:33 AM

hey robert and steven, ya miss this too. From PBS , a small but repeatbale fraction of weather and hurricane forecasts are wrong. If they knew it all, they would get it 100% all the time. thats science libs, not just denials. Even local weather forecasters say that you can have all the humidity in the air you want, without a trigger it will not rain. How exactly does a water droplet remain airborn in a cloud to reflect light to make it white. Water vapor and clouds are 2 different things. so all you ignorant liberals, keep telling me i am mental. I really am. I invented a good many things. You just name call . i learned chemistry and physics from the great masters. the chemists who won ww2 and the phsyicists who made the bomb. and like tesla, who electrified the world. and you say this aint science, wow.so liberal.

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Steiner

Aug-25-13 9:26 AM

more for robert and steven. the 2 slit experiment shows that the world is engineerable. The std science is stuck on nano technology, like on making thing smaller on PBS. my steinertons energize gas to give 25% more mileage at a penny a gallon cost. the weather is engineerable now, it really is. but the stupid libs,get stuck on trace quantities of co2 in air when nitrogen is the most.libs just dont know real science when they see it. so unlearned libs, keep telling me i am stupid, i laugh at you while running the steinertrons. You dont even know what i am talking about do ya ? thats how ignorant the libs are, all due to the public education system and lack of choice .its a liberal paradise out there.

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Steiner

Aug-25-13 9:20 AM

hey steven and robert, for sure you have bought my chemical stuff in the stores.sales world wide 9 figures, thats way over $100,000,000.thousands of lives saved. i am famous in the chemical world. I have quoted actual science, but the depth of it eludes the liberals minds here. the conversations between einstein and bohr about the foundation of the universe, the 2 slit experiment. especially the perkin elmer infra red spectroscopy test. Infra red is a standard tool in chemical industry since the late 40's. millions of tests run and recorded, repeatable. Its is part of what made casey anthony innocent. What part of science dont ya get libs? the gillette articles, actual observation in weather between humid and non humid days.where numerical forecsasts arose from. The level of water vapor vs co2 in air. So libs, what part of that do ya miss over and over. you dont actually knoew any science at all robert and steven. You are clueless. But thats a liberal. this aint science ?

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robert

Aug-25-13 9:01 AM

"hey robert, i am a scientist. you bought my stuff in store." no don't think so Steiner bull**** isn't sold in stores. You call yourself a scientist and an inventor but you can barely craft a reasonable response. You sir are a crackpot with delusions of grandeur with a lot of time on your hands.

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localresident

Aug-24-13 5:15 PM

There is a difference between peoples' definition of climate change. The real argument is whether or not manmade activity has any influence on it.

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LilrudSteven

Aug-24-13 12:39 PM

Steiner, you haven't quoted real science. Just the names of scientists. Knowing names and reading books does not mean you know climate science. I think a lot of us here are your equal in science knowledge so explaining your theory would be the way to convince people.

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Steiner

Aug-24-13 9:03 AM

Ike campaigned in the 50's to eliminate the bumbledom of the last 20 years the democrats had made. Depression, cold, want, and rationing, yes rationing lindsay ! you would have loved the great depression, lindsay. Now these same bumblecrats are back under the guise of science.It is science, but is junk science.Judeye says over and over real science, we need real science. i have quoted real science over and over again. But poor judeye does not know real science. No libs does. They know idealogies.the consensus was global cooling, but changed as outside of dust the libs could not control our life. But with carbon control they could. Since the libs run govt via unelected officials, nearly all democratic, what better way to remake society. Its the hope and change of obama. Unfortunatly its snake oil.

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Steiner

Aug-24-13 8:57 AM

hey robert, more for you. weather forecasting via calculation arose from the manhattan project . They had to configure explosions to set the bombs off and then quantify the efects of the blast.johnny Von neumann figured prominently in that. He was the father of weather forecasting as we know it. But as any good math guy knows if there is something missing in your formula, you results will be off. I have found the missing ingredient from ancient sources.Just look at the ruins they left, a wonder to this day. got this so far ? i bet the co2 dunderheads never even heard or thought of it. i had many industry firsts in chemicals, my first love. I then got into ancient science together with quantum physiscs. i assure you, this sinks the co2 guys on the spot.

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Steiner

Aug-24-13 8:50 AM

hey robert, the consenus in 1900 was that matter was supreme and could not be broken down. then radioactivity was found. The consensus, you love a consensus was destroyed . even a woman got into the act, curie. Science as we knew it for all time,called newtonian, another consensus was up ended. robert would have been wrong again,. like a good liberal. if one is real clever and dkexpat wants the secret, one can build another kind of 2 slit machine and make gas give 25% extra mpg. physical reality engineered at the qunatum level or better in the heisenberg world. The weather is heisenberg for sure. weather forecasts are wrong in a certain small percentage. Thats from PBS, not me. put all these facts together and the conclusion is co2 is junk science and the consensus is wrong as it always is. still think i am wrong ? then you are a hope less mindless liberal who only parrots.i financed all the machine work myself, no govt grants. poor cronig, his beloved govt missed out again.

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Steiner

Aug-24-13 8:42 AM

robert, if i am a crackpoot as you say, then so are all the nobel prize winners like einstein and bohr. They made quantum physics a reality. You never read about the 2 slit experiment and feynman, another nobel winner, his comment about how fundamental that experiment is. robert, you parrot like judeye and the rest of the libs. You know nothing of basic science. to help you think, einstein could not fathom how the world we know and live in arises from a world that cannot be directly measured. Its called the heisenberg uncertainty principle. ever hear of that ? I bet not . If protons, neutrons and electrons arise fom this and we are composed of same then the world we live in arises from an unobservable world. Robert just called the greatest minds in 2000 years crack pots ! Stupid ignorant robert.as all libs are. Cylcotrons and the hadron collider arose from quantum physics and robert calls them confused. it dont get no better than this.with me so far liberals ?

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Steiner

Aug-24-13 8:35 AM

robert, you show how plain stupid libs and the so called scientists are. You posters must not know what anlytical chemistry is. hey robert, i am a scientist. you bought my stuff in store. You dont know any logic and are a flat earther. It must be co2 as it is rising a tad.And the earth looks flat and the sun rises says robert ! Then water vapor must be rising from burning. water is one of the greatest heat trapping chemicals in the planet . boil water and see. Consensus is not science, any good scientist knows that. All invention destroys consensus. Casey anthony walked because of analytical science. Analytical science id's and characterizes their response to infrared.water traps heat, co2 does not. fact, repeatable over and over. you and all the other so called scientists miss these important facts. All known for 65 years. the so called scientists are learning disabled.

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robert

Aug-24-13 7:31 AM

"alarmists" the right is always good at creating a nickname. Over 20000 scientists (real scientists Steiner not crack pots like you) all agree Global warming is real. Why does FOX news (this is where republican policy starts) keep denying that it even exists??

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concerned

Aug-23-13 9:57 PM

I gotta throw away my globe I guess it is wrong they must have moved the Atlantic Ocean it use to be east of us.

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Steiner

Aug-23-13 8:20 AM

hey libs, co2 change is a computer model thing based on the flat earth approach. Co2 is rising a bit and traps heat they think so it must be co2. wrong . Judeye misses again and again the effect of humidity in the air. even if not condensed into a cloud, the water vapor will hold heat. A rule of logic is that if you build something on a false premise, the entire edifice collapses, consesus or not. judeye and the libs miss that.simple observation on water and weather will show this to be true. science eludes libs. perkin elmer analytical proves this correct. judeye does not know what perkin elmer analytical machines are. she missed that again. so all you so called learned libs are wrong, plain and simple. on PBS it was said a small but significant fraction of weather forecasts on huricanes always wrong. If it was as simple as the libs thought, ie, heat, there would be no errors.science judeye, not idealogy as you propose.

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Steiner

Aug-23-13 8:08 AM

more for the unlearned libs. In the late 40's and early 50's, in water works and sewage, a mag about water treatment a series of articles appeared .The author, manly gillette was saying that the weather was going to get extreme by the late 20th century. he based that on tree ring analysis and geologic surveys, etc. This sinks co2 again on the spot. The author wanted to hollow out mountains in the west to store water for times of drought. If tree rings that date back a long time would predict the weather and co2 lower, then co2 theory is kaput. more science for judeye.The water works people did more for life extension than any doctor as the great killers were waterborn diseases. ask any sewage or water treatment plant worker. they know that to be true.

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Steiner

Aug-23-13 8:00 AM

marcia, you and judeye dont make sense. You both missed my post of 18 mile creek levels and boat traffic. If after 200 years the lake is down only a bit and a rise in co2, then co2 climate change sinks on the spot. I believe you and judeye cannot comprehend even the simplest of science. You missed al gores recent comments about water vapor in air rising. yep fire adds water and its also a water planet. water movement moves tremendous heat around , more than co2, fact. watch PBS, they have an excellent show on water on the planet. what part of these facts libs dont ya understand ? How can it elude you ? Boiling water for tea or a hot water tank should tell you how much heat water can absorb. judeye and marcia are the most science illiterate people here. They insist others are stupid.

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Steiner

Aug-23-13 7:52 AM

for judeye again, the first climate rage was cooling not warming and the activists had plenty of science to back that up. Humans were polluting the air with particles for the water, yes water , cronig , to condense and form clouds to reflect heat. yep they knew back in the 70's water had great heat absorbing ability. so judeye, your beloved consensus was wrong again, like now. you must have missed that in your parroting.judeye you NEVER comment on the great debate between einstein and Bohr about the origin of the natural world. ie , the 2 dlit experiment. It gave rise to the phrase, god does not play dice. Everything we know arises from the indetermintate world of the 2 slit experiment. Facts judeye. That includes the weather. you misssed facts again . you missed the cosmic origin of lightning. For DK, thats why peter was called son of thunder, cosmic forces would be operating in him. even the ancients knew that the weather was cosmic in origin.

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