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What they make

Comparing pay for Allegany, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua counties’ employees

September 15, 2013

By LIZ SKOCZYLAS OBSERVER Mayville Bureau Although median household income and per capita income between Allegany, Cattaraugus and Chautauqua counties are similar, the pay of their elected officials......

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Chuck392

Sep-16-13 7:31 PM

And I can add something I just learned today. An individual worked at a local retail grocery chain in the customer service/cash office. Changed to an administrative position in local government. They told me that both their pay and benefits were better at the grocery store, but they wanted to get away from the ever-changing work schedule of retail.

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rumblefish

Sep-16-13 6:33 PM

we would love to see the comparison for what mayors are paid ,we are sure that the top seat in Dunkirk is grossly over paid, and should be changed to a honorary position with a very small stipend, after all what has the present administration done to improve the life of the city taxpayer, moving forward means hiring a qualified city manager

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judeye

Sep-16-13 8:26 AM

If the county executive and the county clerk pay has not changed in 20 years (did I read that correctly?)..then wow does that mean they were grossly OVERPAID for all these years?

Average county employee making BELOW the median wage in our county? That must come as quite the shock to all who want to keep yelling about how OVERPAID county employees are.

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notalways

Sep-16-13 12:03 AM

Remember this is the average of all county employees. If the average county employee income is 38,565 and they use the income for all the managers, lawyers, department heads,assistant department heads,professionals,and sheriff patrol (I believe they earn every dime they get) then where does that leave the regular workers pay? So much for over paid union workers in the county.

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DKexpat

Sep-15-13 10:59 PM

The sad part is that new/young public employees can't afford to buy homes. Starting wages for fire, police, teaching, etc. are only a couple of thousand dollars higher than in WNY.

They take jobs to get experience on their resumes and then leave the area for someplace they can afford to live.

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DKexpat

Sep-15-13 9:43 PM

Why housing is so expensive in the metro DC area: average household income in my county is $121k. I think the national number for "the top 5%" is $163k, but around DC it's $191k, and 22% of the households in my county are over that.

Which is why the avg. price of a SFH is in the $500s and new-builds begin around $650k. New condos start in the $300s and townhouses in the $400s. It's common to see "nice" apartments rent for over $2k/ month.

Unreal, huh?

The county exec earns $180k, but the county budget is $1.8 billion. The sheriff earns $130k, but has 600 employees. Both of the foregoing reflect the fact we have consolidated services - for example, the $768 million school budget is approved by the county legislature - the county-wide school board can recommend only, not set the final number.

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PhilJulian

Sep-15-13 6:34 PM

This is an election year with many offices up for grabs including county executive. I would like to see the OBSERVER conduct a poll so that candidates can get a feel for what is important to voters. What I would like to see is a giant ad asking voters to fill in their preferences and drop off the form at the Observer offices. Possible multiple choice questions might be: Do you favor consolidation of city, village and town governments? Would you favor a county takeover of all law enforcement? Do you favor consolidation of water districts? Should all public works functions be centralized? Are government salaries too high? Should the CARTS bus system be eliminated? Should the DIDA be merged with the county IDA? and any other issues that are relevant and of interest to candidates for office. I think candidates should know how the majority feels on the issues.

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Chuck392

Sep-15-13 5:47 PM

Quite honestly, the Observer article needs to be taken with a grain of salt. They aren't comparing apples to apples. For example, comparing average individual salaries against median household numbers does not give an accurate picture.

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Chuck392

Sep-15-13 5:43 PM

Phil - I know there is a lot more to it. But at face value, what our executive is making is low by most standards, and that was my point. Heck, there are plenty of teachers here in the county making more than the County Exec.

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PhilJulian

Sep-15-13 1:47 PM

CHUCK392 - to be fair you should compare the full value tax rates in Florence and Dorchester counties with the rate in our county. There are a lot of factors that go into taxes not just the county executives pay.

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PhilJulian

Sep-15-13 1:46 PM

CHUCK392 - to be fair you should compare the full value tax rates in Florence and Dorchester counties with the rate in our county. There are a lot of factors that go into taxes not just the county executives pay.

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Chuck392

Sep-15-13 11:00 AM

A quick check to compare our County Executive's $85,000 pay against two County Administrators in South Carolina with similar population - Florence County pays $142,000 and Dorchester County pays $120,910.

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PhilJulian

Sep-15-13 9:41 AM

The report shows that the average pay for a county employee is $38,565. Compare that to the median HOUSEHOLD INCOME in the county of $41432. It makes me wonder what the average pay is for a worker in the private sector. Are salaries in the public sector completely out of line with the private sector and could that be a factor in our struggling economy? In the final analysis as President Reagan once said "government is too big, too expensive and too intrusive in our lives". That is especially true here in Chautauqua County where we continue to lose population, lose jobs and lose our youth to areas where government is not choking off the economy.

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commentor

Sep-15-13 9:13 AM

Given the job they have all done I think it's time for a pay cut!!! Jobs are being lost by the millions, salaries are being frozen and they want raises??

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Steiner

Sep-15-13 9:10 AM

carlaw, you forget that the govt employees view themselves as indispensable. Life just could not continue without them. . we could probably get rid of Allegheny and cattaraugus county and roll them into chautauqua. All this govt for so few people and that is declining too. but that would be silly if you are a govt employee or democrat. Something we have a lot of in these parts.do not expect any changes unless force majeur strikes . Then the govt might well just start seizing private property to sell and make money. our govt people are in a stupor or something.

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MrDemocrat

Sep-15-13 8:36 AM

Nice job Liz. A great in depth and well laid out article. A great public service. I do believe that our county wide elected officials need to be paid appropriately and the winds of politics should not have an influence on the pay of the exec, clerk or sheriff. The chief executive officer of a $250 million business needs an appropriate pay. As for the Legislators, the pay is too high and is an encouragement for Legislators to over stay their time. It's good for part time Legislators to be fresh and to be providing new ideas and new energy.

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shofuh

Sep-15-13 8:32 AM

Who cares, get your priorities straight.

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joew

Sep-15-13 7:13 AM

Up early there Carlaw. Would you support a COLA raise as I didn't see mention of it in the article?

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Carlaw

Sep-15-13 4:39 AM

The people have made their voices loud and clear: Now is not the time for pay increases for anyone. What is so hard to understand about that??

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