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Speaker is no friend to city

September 17, 2013

Editor, OBSERVER: I would like to comment on the article printed in the OBSERVER (Aug 30) “Beyond Coal: What is the Answer?” The speaker in attendance was at a gathering sponsored by the League of......

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eastwood

Sep-25-13 9:51 PM

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DarkStar

Sep-19-13 1:11 PM

judeye,

I am open to new ideas, but they have to be based on honestly and reality.

The truth now is simply that Dunkirk and Chautauqua County need the power plant as it sits. Sure it would be great it we could snap our fingers and have a means of replacing those local jobs and taxes with a cleaner form of energy but currently that is not an option.

Companies have been fighting to build windmills in the county for over a decade now with little to show for it. So are we supposed to pin out hopes that suddenly all the roadblocks, many put up by the very people pushing for "green" energy, will simply disappear?

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American

Sep-19-13 12:32 PM

"Gosh I feel like I am living in an alternative universe" You are by choice. You live in an Obama safe haven where all he does is good according to your master holy book of lies. Stop believing what Obama spouts and radical terrorist whacko groups like the sierra club.

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judeye

Sep-19-13 8:03 AM

Darkstar..they did speak of wind. They talked of not only how much could possibly be produced here but of the MANUFACTURING jobs it could produce.

I am not committed one way or the other. I am however OPEN to new ideas. Why are so many willing to write off any new idea without getting all of the facts?

If we want to move forward we must consider new ways of doing things. Not sure which path would be the best, but I sure am willing to look at each with an open mind, getting as much REAL factual information on each as I can. It is called INFORMED decision.

Facts and information scare some people though. Ignorance is not always bliss..especially when we speak of energy and the future of our community.

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judeye

Sep-19-13 7:55 AM

Donnar..."if she or her husbands livelihood was on the line. "

My husband DID work for the gas company. The PROVIDER of the gas not an inside job. He was the one who snow shoed into wells during the blizzard of '77 so families would not freeze to death. He worked in the gas fields..on almost every well in this county, many in Erie..and as far away as Seneca Falls.

Yes I am aware of what changes in the plant might mean. I think there just might be alternatives though. I will keep an open mind to anything that will help reduce the carbon in our atmosphere...especially if it would bring JOBS to our area.

Sorry that so many are not open to new ideas. But happy that at least some folks are forward looking and not just stuck in the past.

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judeye

Sep-19-13 7:50 AM

Were any of you at the talk? Where are you getting your information?

You should have been there to ask questions, bring up concerns, get answers.

Why would you refuse to consider an alternative that just might bring JOBS to our community?

Gosh I feel like I am living in an alternative universe sometimes. Many of you have NO idea what was presented, yet ready to condemn it and all who attended. You have NO idea about the Sierra Club which MANY of local people belong to. You have NO idea about climate change..nor do you want to. Ignorance is bliss here..or so it sure seems at times.

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American

Sep-18-13 4:45 PM

The short answer Dark. NO!!

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DarkStar

Sep-18-13 4:28 PM

Judeye, what sort of alternative energy, besides the fact that it would take a ton of windmills to provide what the current plant does, but remember the wako left, which tries to force alternative energy, is against windmills because they might kill a few birds.

These are the same people who screamed bloody murder about paper bag which resulted in the large scale use of plastic bags, but of course they are now screaming bloody murder over those as well.

Yet another example was the whole panic these same wakos caused over freon and they pushed to replace it only after the trouble and expense of converting many items from freon was it discovered that the replacement they forced on the US was worse for the ozone then freon was.

So my question, has the tree hugging enviro wakos ever been right?

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DarkStar

Sep-18-13 4:22 PM

Ah yes the Sierra Club, who has wanted the government to force recycling down people throats, but who doesn't, or at least didn't as of a few years ago, use recycled paper for their calanders because "the quality isn't suffient for our members. LOL!

What a bunch of self righteous hypocrites.

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Donnar

Sep-18-13 12:17 PM

I wonder if the Sierra Club member that posts here would have the same opinion if she or her husbands livelihood was on the line. They are a bunch of hypocrites. How far did they ride their bicycles to protest against the plant? Yeah, that's what I thought.

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PhilJulian

Sep-18-13 11:59 AM

I see the Sierra club as a bunch of nut cases who have no understanding of business or economics. We have to find a balance that protects our environment while still allowing business to operate and provide employment. The Sierra club appears to have a one track mind and they should be ignored.

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commentor

Sep-18-13 11:13 AM

This is definitely a local issue. Sierra Club are a bunch of nuts that go to extremes. These nuts should move to an island of their own and live off the land without electricity, grocery stores, tv and all other modern day inventions.

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rumblefish

Sep-18-13 9:35 AM

last time we looked freedom to speak is not against the law, we all have the right to voice our own opinion, that's called democracy, what our forefathers gave us, everyone has the right to choose, either to agree or not it's the American way

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225522

Sep-18-13 9:16 AM

No coal fired plant in 536 A.D. and where did all the ice go after the last ice age?

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judeye

Sep-18-13 8:57 AM

Marcia...crack me up

no comment...and still two people disagree with your silence

ha ha ha ha...great morning laugh....

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judeye

Sep-18-13 8:55 AM

Newsflash...MANY of us who live in this County...in fact live in Dunkirk belong to the Sierra Club and have for years!

This was a most interesting talk that I wished more people, especially the workforce development and legislators(two did attend) had attended.

They spoke of alternative energy sources that could be implemented....creating JOBS! Imagine that we could move into cleaner energy and have a positive impact on our local economy!

This is the kind of open discussions we need to be having on energy and jobs. Why cannot the state help to fund the transition and nrg build more wind farms locally? Why is this not even in consideration? Are we so scared that we cannot think outside of what they tell us to think?

Thinking of possible alternatives is a GOOD THING. Being open to ideas is good. I wished that more had been there to ask questions.

wished more people were looking for cleaner energy sources. our entire planet depends on it...

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Christopher

Sep-18-13 7:19 AM

I don't often, but I agree with mr. Makuch on this one. The speakers will not be impacted one bit by this plant staying open or closing, so why come here and speak out? It's clearly a local issue.

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Carlaw

Sep-18-13 6:38 AM

It is pretty sad when you refer to someone with a different opinion as an outsider and radical. What good can come from censoring all who hold different views? We need to listen to both sides to make the best decisions.

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Marcia

Sep-18-13 12:36 AM

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