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Reasons to be more than skeptical

October 8, 2013

I’m a little surprised at some of the remarks from supposedly educated people about how the African-American community perceives things compared to other members of society....

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robert

Oct-08-13 12:12 PM

LD, I hope you are prepared for the radical right backlash on this one.

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DarkStar

Oct-08-13 12:59 PM

Yes Robert because anyone posting an opinion other then your own obviously is a radical and is lashing out.

Glad to see your so open minded. lol!

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MikeDavis

Oct-08-13 2:00 PM

Maybe Paul should have less white guilt and listen to Bill Cosby. I think he has a slightly better understanding of black America. Born in 1937 he experienced the entire civil rights movement from the onset to today. But no, it's better to assuage the white guilt by keeping the black community down with the handouts of welfare and the low expectations the liberals have for them in schools and life. Your pity party does nothing to help the problems and everything to exacerbate them. But you have been indoctrinated into the liberal mindset that it is better to show pity than do something like hold them responsible for their own actions. What have Jesse and Al done for the black community? They made themselves rich and have done nothing to help the people of A.A. society.

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Marcia

Oct-08-13 3:16 PM

MkeDavis, you obviously did not understand what Paul said. There is not mention of pitying people, it's understanding what they have been through. Unless you have been the victim of this outright racism, that is alive in well in our community, you just don't know what it feels like. Every educated, intelligent black person, from Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Barack Obama to Rep. Cleaver being spit upon by an anti-health care reform protester in 2010. It's even been the policy in NYC to stop and frisk black youth for no reason. Blacks are incarcerated at much higher rates for drug infractions than whites, even though they statistically use drugs at the same rate. Yes things are getting better, but we have a long way to go.

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PR24601

Oct-08-13 4:09 PM

Better find a Band-Aid Marcia, your heart is bleeding.

I agree with MikeDavis. Within the black community there are those that are preaching responsibility. They are preaching the need to be a father, to keep a family together, to get your education, to stop blaming others and make something for yourself. There are black leaders that understand, correctly, that the welfare system does nothing but create societal dependents.

Then there are black "leaders" like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who know that the American welfare system allows they themselves to play the pied piper.

I feel no guilt for the plight of blacks in America. I didn't don a white hood, or play any part in keeping any black individual down in my lifetime. I empathize, but have no guilt. Shame on all the bleeding hearts that think we should still be paying for our previous generations transgressions.

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PhilJulian

Oct-08-13 4:55 PM

I see the term "racism" as a convenient excuse for failure. It all starts with a stable family life. How can there be stability when 73% of black babies are born out of wedlock? How can there be stability when more than half of city blacks drop out of high school? The civil rights legislation of the 1960's along with affirmative action, housing and food subsidies, job preference and other laws have given minorities advantages never seen by other ethnic groups. I strongly believe you get respect and acceptance when you earn it. Stop blaming white people for failures they had nothing to do with.

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American

Oct-08-13 5:17 PM

"Rep. Cleaver being spit upon by an anti-health care reform protester in 2010"Could it possibly be just because Cleaver was pushing obamas agenda? He77 I would spit on reid and Pelosi for the same reason.

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Marcia

Oct-08-13 7:48 PM

American, and that speaks so much about your character. That you would spit on a US Congressman or Senator because you disagree. You use the name American but you don't seem to believe in our country and it's laws and rules.

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Marcia

Oct-08-13 7:52 PM

PhilJulian, you have obviously never heard Sharpton talk. I have and he says the same things as Cosby, that the men have to treat women and the elderly better, not use the N word and pull their pants up. To try to find jobs and be good parents. So where does your opinion of him come from? This article explains it.

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joew

Oct-08-13 8:32 PM

Seems Marcia you may have forgotten or were unaware that those of us that wore the uniform back in the 60's and 70's were spat upon. I don't condone or agree with that behavior by the way.

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American

Oct-08-13 8:35 PM

Get off your high horse Marcia. You are no better then anyone else. Skin color doesn't make anyone better OR worse then the next person. Those like you who would tear the fabric of this nation apart just to follow a socialist dream are the sad ones. Everyone black, white, red, yellow it doesn't matter. What you do with your life and the talents that have been given you is what counts. I know many upstanding people of different races. The government owes no race a better lifestyle or freebies because of what happened 150 years ago. Get over it move on act like an American and not a hyphenated American.

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American

Oct-08-13 8:36 PM

I really don't either joew because like you I was one of those that wore it in the 60's. I used it just to make a point about the disaster that is the ACA.

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American

Oct-08-13 8:41 PM

More democrats arrested "At least eight Democratic members of the House were among about 200 people arrested Tuesday after they blocked a main street near the Capitol during a massive rally seeking to push Republicans to hold a vote on a stalled immigration reform bill." Got to love it when they go to jail for what reid and Obama caused.

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localresident

Oct-08-13 10:40 PM

1. If you think Pelosi wasn't spitting on every single Amerian when she said "you'll just have to pass it so you can see what's in it", I have some news for you. And locally, Cuomo I'd the same exact thing in the dead of night with a horribly drafted SAFE act.

2. Al Sharpton channels Cosby-esque speak when it's convenient for him. But, when, oh, I don't know...say Tawana Brawley for example, has a problem, the tone changes juuuust a bit. Less than ironic.

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judeye

Oct-09-13 7:40 AM

localresident...why are you not quoting the entire statement of Pelosi?

"You've heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don't know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it's about diet, not diabetes. It's going to be very, very exciting. But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. "

The full statement.

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judeye

Oct-09-13 7:45 AM

American...and I am PROUD of every one of them that was arrested. They stood up for their beliefs. The belief that we must pass an immigration bill.

Which I do believe is yet another bill that would pass IF the Speaker would only bring it to the floor. Oh he is under that stupid rule that the majority of Republicans must support a bill before he would bring it up for vote.

What happened to the people's voice in the People's House?

Hushed...due to the Speaker...

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judeye

Oct-09-13 7:49 AM

Are you aware as late as 1967 it was ILLEGAL to marry outside of your race in the state of Mississippi? My own brother in law graduated from an all White HS!

The high percentage of Blacks in prison..and the high percentage of unemployment with Black youth...NO coincidence.

We have made major strides forward in race equality. Yet we have much more to go until truly everyone will be judged on their character and not the color of their skin.

Thanks for an excellent article.

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DarkStar

Oct-09-13 8:27 AM

"...until truly everyone will be judged on their character and not the color of their skin...."

And this will never happen as long as the left is so quick to flip out the race card whenever they feel it might help them.

Oppose Obama's policies and you will be called a racist, but when the left tears calls Clarence Thomas and other black conservatives everything from Uncle Toms to race traitors and that's okay, because they aren't leftist so they aren't really black.

As for the OP, how many times do we hear the police don't clean up crime in minority neighborhoods because of racism, but if the community does not support the police, and in fact cover for the criminals then they should be told to shut their mouth since it's they themselves who created the situation, not the white man, the police, or society as a whole.

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DarkStar

Oct-09-13 8:30 AM

As for those who are still so offended that a member of Congress was spit on, did you feel the same when it was happening to our troops coming home from Vietnam and who had done nothing more then follow US law and report for duty when called up?

Oh I'm sure no leftist here will take credit for it, the same way they don't take credit for showing children at parades pictures of bodies in their anti-war hysteria, although for some strange reason they don't seem to mind when Obama bombs people.

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Steiner

Oct-09-13 8:33 AM

The libs are clueless on this one. America did not invent slavery. The black leaders used slavery to get rid of their opponenets, the unruly types.they sold them for money ! A profit libs ! In america, the natives treated the blacks worse than the whites. When granted freedom and sent back to africa, some of the slaves went back to the very same ways and as rulers over , guess what slaves again. hey christopoher, i will use the same argument that the ACA folks use. Slavery was legal as affirmed by dredd scot and other laws. Christopher neglects to mention that it was his party, the libs which were the biggest offenders here.they founded the klan and did jim crow. He makes it sound like tea partiers were at fault. christopher cherry poicks again and again. thats all libs can do !

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Steiner

Oct-09-13 8:40 AM

judeye, you now want to tell us americans what and how to eat ? Are you nuts ? prevention, preventoin she screams. Thats what they said in eugenics with breeding and sterilizations. judeye, you progressives dont have the brains to tell americans what to do. how do ya miss that over and over ? i do not want to be told what to do by some dumb women progressives. yes, dumb women progressives. pelosi and the feminists are the stupidist ever. judeyes excited about it ! not me. i am scared of it. The govt is now in my health care. Only bad things can arise form it. judeye do you know any history, anything of what the eugenics and progressives led to! The holocaust in case you did not know. The govt will get larger and larger.judeye, read some hisotry, you dont know anything.

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Steiner

Oct-09-13 8:53 AM

Look at africa with all of its continuing conflicts. Who is behind all them christopher, black folks. South sfrica is worse than when apartheid ruled it. Judeye, you miss in mississsippi that is was the libs who did this. How is you libs miss certain facts over and over? In america , the blacks turn crime at a ferocious clip. 12% of population and 50% of violent crime,. They have killed more of each other than all of jim crow. Which party do the blacks vote for ? democratic. Missed by judeye and paul .how is this a legacy of slavery. If one believes as paul, then the state of israel has a right to exist. It follows from the holocaust. yet the left hates it and obama even shafted Poland , after its service in Afghanistan and misery from those great progressives,the soviets. you libs cherry pick al the time. Its the hate america syndrome you possess.judeye , if you progressives were so smart, how is it you missed all the science from the real progressives, guys ? let us know judeye

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Steiner

Oct-09-13 9:03 AM

Play the race card, thats the black and democratic leadership. Bush was said to blow up levees in louisiana after katrina. We were to prove that statement wrong. Black rappers use anti society lyrics all the time. Very little said about this. Its the repubs war on women they say. Sharpton has a long record of the race card. tawana bradley and others. dont forget duke rape case too. Show me white lawyers doing this. jesse jackson shakes down corporations for cash. Black leadership fights choice in schools. Holder is suing louisiana , they must hate that state, saying vouchers are racist . so libs you must refute all of this and you cant. tell me this is all a legacy of slavery. thats a baloney answer. why desegregate the schools after all ? Do minorities need white folk next to them to learn ? They did not even after the civil war. It was not until brown vs board that he black decline began. look at history.

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American

Oct-09-13 10:06 AM

Yes judeye Oct-09-13 7:40 AM, I think we all understand it is about controlling every aspect of our lives. About preventing people from eating what they want (ie:diet). Yes you would be proud of them but if it had been people doing that to stand up for their beliefs and trying to force it to be left as is and wanting the rules we have now enforced then you would be singing a different tune. Deport the illegals and make them follow the same path as is required by the law NOW. For the democrats it is all about getting a bigger voting base.

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localresident

Oct-09-13 10:34 AM

Judeye, your quotation of Pelsi is not one bit different than mine. Why wouldn't she say " please read the contents of the bill so you can see what's in it enforce it is voted on"? Because she knew it is chock full of holes, that's why.

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