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Government not representing the people

October 10, 2013

A government shut down. A government that does not govern. A representative government that does not represent. The United States was founded on several unbending concept....

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Iconoclast

Oct-10-13 7:02 AM

You do indeed speak the truth... alas you are about 100 years to late to make any difference...

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Steiner

Oct-10-13 7:42 AM

Mr Beyer does not know american history. this c o m promise baloney never existed from the start of the country. I cant imagine what history book the libs are reading as they differ from the ones i have or even seen on tv. Warren, i was not aware the this was about corporations !The libs hate business as business defeated the libs,via the civil war, doing the will of the people, it was legal to keep slaves.So Mr beyer, what do we need more, food and energy or your beloved govt ! History shows that the govt did neither except maybe give free land to settlers and that was to drive out the locals.Business improved yields by machinery, prices fell. Std oil arrived, saved the whale. Now warren , like a baby after its momma , wants the teat of govt.i can gear the patriotic music playing , can you folks ? warren, after superstorm sandy, what did the people need ? Govt or energy and food ?you libs are great for not mentioining names, tea party. You think you are smart, its the opposite libs

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Steiner

Oct-10-13 7:53 AM

More c o m promise for warren. It was a handful of very rich slaveholders that plunged the country into civil war. It was a handful of rich people who launched the revolution before this. Now the libs, not being satisfied with the outco m e of civil war started unions in our public schools. here Warren, they fight school choice via vouchers. Choice is only for abortions. Holder is suing the state of LA over vouchers. How many times on tv have you seen teachers union reps, foaming at the mouths over this ? Warren, what land do you dwell in ? Where is your mental power ? In the liberal land of OZ ? This is the news i watch and read in books.Oh warren, who invented everything we use, the govt ? Nope. So warren, you need to find reality. If you cant , join that famous league of voters and really mess things up. its the peoples way as the masses are always but always wrong. Thats why the libs love them, the libs are wrong too. the world of science and even philosophy proves this. facts !

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judeye

Oct-10-13 8:29 AM

Excellent letter.

Appalling that a very few in one side of our Congress can hold the entire Country hostage as they make demands to change an existing law. Total disregard for our system of government, like putting a dagger into the middle of what we call democracy in this Country.

Of particular note, is your reference to the power of money in our elections and in the votes they take in Congress. The current shut down can be traced back to one group of very rich, very powerful the Koch bros.

Until we get the money..and yes I mean all of it...out of our elections and out of our ballot boxes we will not have democracy. It has been sold to the highest bidder, which sadly is not the People of this land.

One way to get the money out, is through organizations like Move To Amend which is working to appeal Citizens United which stated that money is freedom of speech.

We are at the mercy of whoever gives the most money to have their will represented.

Tragic death o

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judeye

Oct-10-13 8:32 AM

Steiner..."this c o m promise baloney never existed from the start of the country."

Our Country was founded on one compromise after another. Through discussions, debates, and COMPROMISES, they wrote our very Constitution.

Good grief..what history book have you been reading? One written by Beck or some other uneducated idiot, I bet.

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commentor

Oct-10-13 10:54 AM

Oh the joy of Steiner and Judeye.

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American

Oct-10-13 11:54 AM

And while we are getting rid of Citizens United we show also throw in the new tax base that the democrats pushed through. The biggest single tax base now is the ACA. Take them both down, get rid of the money, toss the unions and the wealthy democrats supporters out on the behinds. Stop bill gates and others from donating to the left.

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American

Oct-10-13 12:08 PM

ht tp://news.yahoo.co m/democrats-america-own-government-223010441.html "DEMOCRATS TO AMERICA: WE OWN THE GOVERNMENT!" Go read this article by Ann Coulter. And yes I already know what the left wing terrorists will say.

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Marcia

Oct-10-13 1:14 PM

Yes the oligarchs have created a Frankenstein type monster that now they cannot control. The Koch brothers and other right wing nuts spend millions setting up the tea party and getting all of these right wingers like Cruz elected to do their bidding. But the monster has turned on them. Now they are scared that they won't obey and raise the debt limit and plunge the country and world into chaos. To the Koch's: you reap what you sow.

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joew

Oct-10-13 6:35 PM

Judeye how can you say what you do and continue to IGNORE the illegal changes made by your pal to Obamacare. That flies in the face of everything you said! How can you in good conscience keep talking about a law that has been illegally changed by your President? You have yet to explain that Judeye,WHY????????????

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joew

Oct-10-13 6:40 PM

Koch's didn't sow anything Marcia,all purchased on the open market. Where do you get that stuff?

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jaycee

Oct-10-13 8:10 PM

From one of the smartest and insightful man this country has ever known. John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the White House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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jaycee

Oct-10-13 8:10 PM

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson

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jaycee

Oct-10-13 8:11 PM

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." -- Thomas Jefferson

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jaycee

Oct-10-13 8:11 PM

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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jaycee

Oct-10-13 8:12 PM

AND FINALLY:

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

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American

Oct-10-13 9:34 PM

"Unlike prison workers, federal inmates still getting paid during government shutdown" Another believe it not moment from this admin.

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DKexpat

Oct-10-13 9:50 PM

The Congressional gym - complete with sauna and steam room - and it's federal cleaning staff were deemed "essential" by Speaker Boehner and itremains open to members of the House.

The gym for congressional staffers was closed...

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Steiner

Oct-11-13 8:02 AM

judeye, you know nothing of history. So you call names. right wing people are idiots when it is the left who are, like you judeye. a good book is history of the american people by paul johnson. C o p romise is defined as forming a coalition to bash your opposition. Even early elections were dirty, even by todays standards. Judeye, you believe after numerous numerous posts i have done that the govt did everything, it was the other way around. the greatest defining moment of america , even to date was the civil war. tell me how the people in govt co m promised on that one judeye. The libs are not budging an inch just like in the 1850s. It lead to a disaster which you would have supported.judeye, i have said over and over, you know nothing of science, history ,philosophy, yet you keep right on posting. You give women a bad name.

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judeye

Oct-11-13 8:05 AM

"the Republican Party is now viewed favorably by 28% of Americans, down from 38% in September. This is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992."

People of America are not stupid. We know what is going on..and we KNOW who to blame. Amen

Now stop the shut down...raise the debt ceiling...and start to work for our Country and not against it.

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Steiner

Oct-11-13 8:09 AM

marcia, you too are confused. The frankenstein monster is the govt. the very same govt supported by you and judeye. It takes 2 trillion a year ftom america and gives us nothing in return. Marcia, you forget, like judeye, the frankenstein monster in the schools. Who runs the schools , the liberals. marcia and judeye, you give me nothing but fodder to say that women should not be allowed to vote. For the last 2oo years, you have absorbed little if any science. You think laws alone can fix things. they cant. I have listed many laws passed and later regretted. You and judeye are plain ignorant liberals. how are all those govt programs doing liberals. Special for judeye, from the book listed below. A listing on pg 289 all things america was, low tax, limited govt . That made america great, not the liberal govt you adore judeye.Judeye, is a listing of history a roight wing idiot thing too ? let us know !

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Steiner

Oct-11-13 8:15 AM

judeye just made a fool out of herself. the reference i listed sinks her position and she wants more govt ! Special for marcia, frankenstein monster ? Who is his wife, its the feminists, the ones who want govt, like judeye does to solve their needs. Guess what marcia, the feminists have absorbed nothing, since the gals got the right to vote. nothing at all. And you complain about the Koch brothers ? are there any rich gals from science like the guys? I dont think so. dont let that stop you in your quest for a govt solution to your inadequate mind. so judeye and marcia, tell us about the govt and the wonderful things it does. they exist only in your deluded minds.

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Steiner

Oct-11-13 8:22 AM

jaycee, you got everything right in your quotes, except JFK. he was one of the dumbest presidents. The Berlin wall, vietnam, cuban missile crisis, etc. Ike said he would not send anything but advisors to Nam. JFk, elected by progressive organized crime money from prohibition in a rigged election to boot, ( a great law eh judeye ?) escalated the war and so did LBJ. 55,000 dead. judeye would have supported this. I read in history books, judeye, books about math geniuses that the cuban missile crisis solution was suggested by bertrand russell. JFK did not have a clue, like all liberals . now judeye, get your name calling ready ! oh, the book shows how feminists , once again , missed the calling of science. They prefered their larger than life man the govt. a failure then and now. you gals.

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jaycee

Oct-11-13 9:25 AM

for the record, perhaps my posting wasn't clear enough or mistaken. When I stated, "From one of the smartest and insightful man this country has ever known" it was intended for Thomas Jefferson, not JFK. sorry if anyone else was confused. TJ was as you know one of our founding fathers, a historian, educator, politician and most importantly carefully drafted the US Constitution for the very reasons of what we are experiencing today with gov't. One of his best summarizations was the following.... Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

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joew

Oct-11-13 9:44 AM

Judeye-" People of America are not stupid. We know what is going on..and we KNOW who to blame". Amen

"Now stop the shut down...raise the debt ceiling...and start to work for our Country and not against it".

I know who and what to blame. The president is the who,and the what is the total lack of LEADERSHIP! He needs to start working for those of us that pay taxes and not against us with the insane and unbridled spending addiction he has. The redistribution of wealth crap has the country on the skids!

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