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Put default politics on ice

October 24, 2013

The discussion of the nation’s debt ceiling and growing talk of a potential default on U.S. debt obligations is not just an issue for Wall Stree....

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stangv8

Oct-27-13 9:21 AM

Probably the greatest harm done by vast wealth is the harm that we of moderate means do ourselves when we let the vices of envy and hatred enter deep into our own natures. Theodore Roosevelt

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stangv8

Oct-27-13 9:21 AM

Tea Party is racist because they're against Obama's policies? I think if you look up Allen West he has something to say to you about that.

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joew

Oct-26-13 2:14 PM

Gee Captain you sure seem to know lots about those people you mention,do you watch/ hear on a regular basis? Please pass on to me what they say,thanks!

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Captain

Oct-26-13 10:30 AM

..****ing from a constant defender of a certain news network, are we supposed to believe that you do? I guess if I bought into what Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc spewed, I could then be just as informed as you ;) Silly me.

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joew

Oct-26-13 9:49 AM

That's my whole goal in life Captain,to annoy the heck out of of those who post stuff that they know nothing or very little about.

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joew

Oct-26-13 9:46 AM

Judeye did your Pal not say raising the debt ceiling was unpatriotic back during the initial campaign?

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Steiner

Oct-26-13 9:09 AM

judeye, your party is making americans stupid. yes stupid beyond all imagination. I have posted many things on science, all ignored by you and mocked by dk. judeye, i dont want to be stupid like a liberal ! The world of science is ignored by you. You write on co2 climate stuff. Nonsense. Your teachers union makes everyone buy into a liberal school system to perpetuate it. You dont see this at all.now you say turn off fox news. I dont want to be stupid like a liberal or the LWV judeye, WHY DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ME STUPID ? why do libs believe what you do ? Its nonsense.why cant we have choice judeye besides abortions for oiur gals.whats wrong with you and your libs judeye ?

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Steiner

Oct-26-13 9:04 AM

judeye, you are ignorant beyond all imagination ! Turn off the fox gang . Listen to what ? the regimne news you admire. Judeye i said many times and you ignore. You give women a very bad name. If they think like you and they do,no wonders science and business elude you.Judeye wants to give us pablum .Judeye, cronig said if we wanted it , whatever that may be it is ok. We want foxnews and the unlearned judeye says turn it off. Super mom judeye is here. judeye, yo do not know anything out of your limited sphere of reading or tv. No science, business or anything. just parroting liberal nonsense.

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Steiner

Oct-26-13 8:59 AM

hey liberals, there is another govt inspired crisis brewing. health care. besides the website problems. reports of mass cancellations of policies are surfacing.Just think if obama had not issued waivers to businesses. Wait till they expire. we could have another economic downturn. the 30's or the 70's carter years all over again.costs way over estimates. all supported by the libs to change amercia to a socialist 3rd world country. Of course, if we disagree , we are angry. hey libs , we should support this? So we have a war on coal, the ACA,stupid green energy, an anemic recovery from our libs. hey gals, waitress jobs are the booming ones for you ! support a liberal. you libs sure are smart !

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judeye

Oct-26-13 8:48 AM

PhilJulian...we have raised the debt ceiling numerous times over the century. I believe Reagan raised it 18 times.

Even the HINT of our possible default has harmed us as a Nation. The shutdown prevented our President from attending a very important summit meeting. The threat of a default has many of our foreign investors nervous.

The use of a threat of a possible default of our entire Country for political reasons is unconscionable. It is downright...UNAMERICAN.

And yes, turn off Fox and gang who keep saying we would not default if we did not raise the debt ceiling. Turn on any business station, paper, or foreign news to find out just how bad it really would be to not raise the debt ceiling.

They range from VERY bad, to VERY VERY bad to VERY VERY VERY VERY bad. Take your pick....

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Steiner

Oct-26-13 8:37 AM

you posters are asking people to believe that the libs via the social engineering they have done for decades have no responsibility for the mess we see in society. If that is true, then BP is not responsible for the oil spill in the gulf. Barny Frank and others should be arrested for blocking reform of fannie and freddie. But those are sacred liberals. At every major calamity in history , we can find a liberal at its foundation. Its hard for liberals to think. thinking is outlawed by their party.now call me names libs. like white male, or steineeerds, or einsteiner . remember guys gave us the world of science. newton, maxwell, tesla, etc. gals got the crumbs.They even goofed that up.

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Steiner

Oct-26-13 8:24 AM

hey iconoclast, who is actually angry ? It s the libs. Watch them on tv. Ask the teachers union about vouchers. See who does most of the violent crime, it aint the tea party. so please get off this high horse of angry tea partiers. Dont we have a right to be angry ? we dont do crime, pay a fortune in taxes so the libs can buy votes and then are called names. Libs, everything you poost is without foundation, just name calling. Anyone who wants to be a liberal just wants to be poor and dumb.there can be no question of that. Look at the blacks, now the women are on the liberal wagon. i always say women just cant think straight. They prove it again and again on TV, postings here, articles in papers, etc. so we have half the population at least wanting to be stupid. I should go along with this ? the learned steiner and his steinertrons ?

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Steiner

Oct-26-13 8:18 AM

hey marcia, you are confused. white males and their businesses gave us EVERYTHING we take for granted. It was NOT the govt, or democrats or even, those wonderful creatures , women .FACTS, look it up. Young gals are democratic. Older ones are repubs. the posters here are great at saying Fox news, etc when the posters believe things that just aint so. Like you marcia.Why would anyone be a democrat ? Civil war, jim crow, KKK, income tax, great depression. carter , I forgot vietnam and the kennedys. So posters, tel me this is Fox news or right wing. It is just facts. did ya posters miss the history of your own party ? cherry picking ? you posters miss the obvious again and again I think you are unable to think ! so say fox neews, right wing or ther nasmes like cronig does. poor ignorant liberals.

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Steiner

Oct-26-13 8:10 AM

you unlearned liberals get it wrong again and again. The income gap has widened under obama. the 80's were boom years. Many of my friends in the chemical industry made fortunes. Gas was cheap. Now we have a "booming" market and it has not transfered its wealth to main street. All facts.Labor unions lift america into prosperity ? wrong again. In the 20's unions were unsuccesful, yet there was a boom. In the 30's, during the libs depression, unions went on strike to further drive up unemployment.yep those smart labor unions. FDR adored unions, they voted dumbacratic.How could we have a labor union without a business learned posters. everyone I know longs for the 80's or even the 50's. Great times. Plenty of money and things were cheap, especially gas.

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Captain

Oct-25-13 4:56 PM

joew's polite & sarcastic requests to those he disagrees with is annoying. He has a different style, more subtle than any of Dcron's posts, but very much similar nonetheless.

If the avg person strived to be "more well-rounded, more educated and well informed," as joew hopes, I'm sure he'd find other "subordinates" to direct his patronizing remarks at.

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Truthteller

Oct-25-13 3:32 PM

People like joew are always screaming for statistics, which they will then tear down as inaccurate. Why bother? Just make stuff up, like the Fix news zombies and their followers do.

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Abomination

Oct-25-13 2:34 PM

Iconoclown....too sad

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Iconoclast

Oct-25-13 2:26 PM

The 18 percent of Americans who identify themselves as Tea Party supporters tend to be Evangelistic Christian, Republican, white, male, married and older than 45. They hold more conservative views on a range of issues than Republicans generally. They are also more likely to describe themselves as “very conservative.” While most Republicans say they are “dissatisfied” with Washington, Tea Party supporters are more likely to classify themselves as “angry.” More than half say the policies of the administration favor the poor, and 25 percent think that the administration favors blacks over whites — compared with 11 percent of the general public. They are more likely than the general public, and Republicans, to say that too much has been made of the problems facing black people. The crazy-glue that holds this group of wacko birds (as McCain so aptly put) together is extreme dogmatism.

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PhilJulian

Oct-25-13 9:22 AM

How did this country get to the point that we have to worry about default on our debt? Excessive spending might have something to do with it.

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Marcia

Oct-25-13 9:06 AM

joew you mean the .001% of non White's like Cain and West?

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joew

Oct-24-13 6:55 PM

Iconoclast could you please post the demographic breakdown of the tea party? Please don't omit the African American members percentage nor the non white other than African American member percentages either OK? Thank you!

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Iconoclast

Oct-24-13 3:11 PM

Already done that JoeBob! Indeed Grayson hits the nail right on the head!

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Iconoclast

Oct-24-13 3:04 PM

During his two terms in the White House (1981–89), Reagan presided over a widening gap between the rich and everyone else, declining wages and living standards for working families, an assault on labor unions as a vehicle to lift Americans into the middle class, a dramatic increase in poverty and homelessness, and the consolidation and deregulation of the financial industry that led to the current mortgage meltdown, foreclosure epidemic and lingering recession. It was Alzheimers Reagan that increased government spending turning the United States from a creditor to a debtor nation. The rants of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, the lunacy of Tea Party, the policy ideas promulgated by propaganda outfits like the Cato Institute masquerading as think tanks and the takeover of the Republican Party by its most conservative right wing were all incubated during the Reagan years. What a loser!

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joew

Oct-24-13 3:02 PM

Well Iconoclast you really should look into that what he said,sounds like you Robot and he could be Bosum buddies!

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Abomination

Oct-24-13 12:05 PM

Wow.

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant. It is just that they know so much that isn’t so." – Ronald Reagan

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