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Partisan redistricting worked

November 17, 2013

By CHUCK CORNELL The sweeping Republican victory in obtaining 13 of 19 Legislature seats has been depicted as a “tsunami” based on the fact that voters were “paying attentio....

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Benny1

Nov-21-13 6:37 PM

chuck cornell apparently isn't concerned with the facts at all (nor is his wife her comments in the clerks race are taken at face value) whether you like the districts or not his facts are wrong several "D's" voted for this plan - ironically Ahlstrom was not one of them according to the observer - "Those voting to accept the new district lines presented by Barmore include:

Barmore; Borrello; Fred Croscut, R-Sherman; Tom Erlandson, D-Frewsburg; Shaun Heenan, D-Dunkirk; John Hemmer, R-Westfield; David Himelein, R-Findley Lake; Vince Horrigan, R-Bemus Point; Chuck Nazzaro, D-Jamestown; John Runkle, R-Stockton; Bob Scudder, R-Fredonia; Robert Stewart, R-Ellington; Mark Tarbrake, R-Ellicott; PJ Wendel, R-Lakewood; and legislature chairman Jay Gould, R-Ashville."

that took about 10 seconds of research apparently the cornell's are still playing politics - also in case chuck doesn't know his wife lost a county wide race the districts didnt matter in her landslide defea

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joew

Nov-19-13 1:29 PM

Anyone see the NY Post story that broke about the fabricated unemployment numbers just a few days prior to the 2012 election. Is this yet another scandal tied to the Obama regime?

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obamaless

Nov-18-13 2:16 PM

GOOD REASON WHY I DID NOT VOTE GEORGE OR HIS WIFE

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American

Nov-18-13 10:28 AM

So that's how Obama got elected. I knew it had to have something crooked attached. Thanks for explaining that judeye.

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judeye

Nov-18-13 8:38 AM

DunkirkRFD..do you have any idea how gerrymandering works?

That is EXACTLY the expected outcome. Just like Nationally many more people voted for Democratic Party candidates than those from the GOP. Yet more Republicans were elected into office.

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DunkirkRFD

Nov-17-13 12:35 PM

It would appear that voters looked beyond party lines and voted for the best candidates. County wide there are more registered democrats than republicans, yet both Horrigan and Barmore beat democratic challengers by a comfortable margin.

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Snotziman

Nov-17-13 12:16 PM

Let's see.......Bob Scudder beat Bill Coughlin in a district that is almost 2 to 1 registered democrat. John Runkle from Stockton beat Tom DeJoe from Portland even though the majority of the population lives in Portland. Terry Niebel beat Sue Baldwin in a district that has a majority of registered democrats. Dave Wilfong beat Bob Whitney in a Jamestown district that has democrats outnumbering republicans by 2 to 1. Yep, sounds like a republican plot to me Chuck.

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Carlaw

Nov-17-13 10:45 AM

This is hilarious. Notice that there was no mention of the clerks race or the executives race. Chuck needs to grow up.

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American

Nov-17-13 10:40 AM

I think I should have waited to post my comments from the other letter wondering when the left would start crying about the election be "stolen" or rigged. I see it already has started again. Such poor losers.

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commentor

Nov-17-13 10:38 AM

That should be smaller brain.

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commentor

Nov-17-13 10:37 AM

I guess those with the bigger brain outsmarted those with the smarter brain. As for the cty home Jamestown is bigger than the North cty and 73% of Dunkirk voters didn't vote. Jamestown could care less about the home. Dunkirk voters were too stupid to get out and vote and try to save their precious home. So if you live in the North cty and didn't vote SHUT YOU'RE PIE HOLE!!!!!

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MrPinecone

Nov-17-13 10:06 AM

Good grief. Chuck, nobody was more partisan than you when you were in the county legislature, except maybe Lori. You and Lori have tallied 3 losses in county wide races (by very big margins, by the way). Now you attribute a republican majority as being the result of a fix. Was it a fix when the Dems ran the show? No, no, that was just good democracy, eh Chuck? The Dem loss of seats is the result of a single issue, the county home. The majority of republicans were on the right side of this issue. Your whine comes from some pretty sour grapes, Chuck. You & Lori were rejected and ejected by the voters for good reason. Give it a rest.

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judeye

Nov-17-13 9:09 AM

So the plan developed by Larry Baramore, which had been initially rejected by the legislation, finally passed.

The moderate Republicans, those for the people not the party, failed us all. They allowed this partisan plan to go full steam ahead, insuring the party would win many seats.

Imagine that..the person who drew up this rigged map then ran for a county office and won! The plan that was clearly a partisan one (according to Post Journal editorial) just got us the huge one party land slide wins.

Great Job GOP who care for party more than they do the people of this county. Who needs independent, non partisan input like that presented by the hard working League of Women Voters when we got people drawing up maps that will guarantee their victory.

We have all been played.

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judeye

Nov-17-13 9:01 AM

I just went and looked at the map. Have any of you? Oh yes it is gerry mandering all around with cuts up this way and insections over there.

But do not take my word for it...why not read the Post Journal take on it...hardly a Democratic party leaning publication..

Oct 21 2012 "What rotten work is afoot by the Republicans in the County Legislature.

What was supposed to be a nonpartisan and community-based redrawing of county legislative districts is instead more likely to be the most uncompromising and politically divided vote since the court-ordered reapportionment of Chautauqua County 40 years ago.....As one longtime observer noted, there simply is no precedent whatsoever for the Chautauqua County Legislature majority party to ram through a partisan reapportionment plan that will govern elections for the next 10 years.....Moderate Republicans - meaning those who are there to serve the people, not the party - have a chance to prevent that from happening this week."

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Steiner

Nov-17-13 7:55 AM

Just think if the democrats had won or even maintained the status quo. we would hear, from our local confused activists like Amiran, see , the people wanted it this way. the people have spoken. So Chuck, get over this. It has been going on since the country was founded. It is getting to be useless to vote. the activists like amiran are so vocal and being the fairer sex, noone wants to go against them. why?, they will be called a misogynt. So the gals at the LWV keep at it, goofing up society with their luddite views on life. Spot on gals !gerrymander those dumb liberals out of the govt. We need sanity in govt, not the stupid liberal policies. Nice job whoever did this.

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GeorgeB67

Nov-17-13 7:53 AM

The redistricting commission voted to send both plans to legislature to be voted on. The plan that passed ultimately put many Republicans in competitive races including a primary that saw a 16-year incumbent, Fred Croscut, lose his seat. Hardly a Republican conspiracy.

The other plan, drawn up by the Democrats, put virtually no Democrats in competitive situations except those who had made it clear they would not be seeking re-election.

As far as Mr. Heenan and Mr. Ahlstrom neither have ever faced any opposition in their races, despite the district lines or who was in the majority. It had nothing to do with the redistricting as Mr. Cornell well knows.

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Snotziman

Nov-17-13 6:22 AM

The comments in this letter could not be further from the truth. The plan designed by the Albany consultant was defeated early on and a commission was formed to draw a new plan. The finalized plan followed Town Line boundaries to include complete Towns within a district where ever possible. The "bi-partisan plan" that Mr. Cornell refers to was drawn by Norm Green, election commissioner, and gerrymandered throughout the county with no regard for Town boundary lines as prescribed by NYS law. Mr Cornell's plan gave every sitting democrat legislator a district in which no other democrat would be forced to run against him/her.

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Christopher

Nov-17-13 5:55 AM

No question, and this is why it's virtually impossible to get anyone out of office at any level, from the county to the Federal Government. Between that and the money, it's a rigged game and always has been. But for those 65% of voters who stayed home, you gave up your right to complain.

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