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Residency rule is appropriate

November 17, 2013

Legislators Jay Gould and John Runkle have a not-so-unique idea when it comes to welfare benefits for potential recipients: make sure those who are doing the taking have established a residency in......

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HVANCDY

Nov-20-13 7:14 PM

Facts are Facts - The lions share of Government Hand-outs goes to White Collar Welfare , Farm Subsidies , and Aid to foreigners. Also look at who is paid the most $$ on the public school rolls - Can you say Stuperintendents.Note : Christie is not the answer and support NY SAFE ACT !

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American

Nov-20-13 2:24 PM

Looks like the left cut and ran again Joew.

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joew

Nov-20-13 8:44 AM

jo1952 one example I can give you is that the Mayo Clinic has 30 interpreters available in their International Services Center. I have friend who works their as a German interpreter. There are many more hospitals,clinics etc that offer those services such as John-Hopkins,Sloan- Kettering and others. We,the US are responsible for right at 75% of the medical device and pharmaceutical innovations in the world. The government need not screw that system up. Don't tell me they won't either,the Obamacare website(three and a half years in the making)is a good example.

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American

Nov-20-13 1:31 AM

I do know that up until this aberration was passed that many of the brightest and best Dr. from Canada came to the U.S.A. to practice medicine. And I do know that the wait times in Canada to see a Dr. are much longer then here. And I also know theirs is a single payer healthcare which ours is not. So do to just that fact their private healthcare insurance costs much less then ours does under the non-healthcare act we now have. Also what Obama pushed through is not healthcare at all but just a tax that forces you to buy the insurance that he and the democratic party "think" we need. So I have yet to find out what makes the ACA good.

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Marcia

Nov-20-13 12:59 AM

American I feel no peer pressure from anyone, l just want other's helped out of the goodness of my heart. Obviously a foreign concept to you. And if did Amy research at all you would discover that the countries with socialized medicine have much better results than our capitalistic pay to play system.

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jo1952

Nov-19-13 10:17 PM

joew, what other countries can you tell me people come here from for medical care? You forgot to inform me.

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jo1952

Nov-19-13 10:16 PM

I'm sorry, I live in a democratic republic which elects a president. Where do you live?

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American

Nov-19-13 10:07 PM

I refer to the "peer" pressure that you and many of the socialist like people on the left feel from the rest of your ilk. If your "king" and his minions say what was passed is good then like good little lemmings you just agree and follow him over the cliff. And where is it saving people money that have to pay higher premiums and bigger deductibles?

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jo1952

Nov-19-13 8:25 PM

I have heard of Canadians coming here, and I've also heard of Canadians who love their system. I have never heard of Europeans coming here for coverage. This from Business Insider might interest you. businessinsider-dot-com/national-health-insurance-2013-11

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joew

Nov-19-13 6:56 PM

I noticed that you leave out the word "quality" Marcia. Why is it that so many people from all over the world come to our shores for health care? Why are there so many Canadian folks at the Cleveland Clinic each and every day. Have you seen the number of Canadian folks at the clinics and hospitals in the Buffalo and Rochester areas Maria? Why would they be there do you suppose?

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Marcia

Nov-19-13 6:32 PM

And why do you prefer that our health care dollars go to make million dollar salaries and profits rather than actual health coverage? I just don't understand that. Please explain. My view has nothing to do with envy but the wise expenditures of money.

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Marcia

Nov-19-13 6:27 PM

American, you're comparing providing health coverage to children' peer pressure? There is no correlation between the two. The entire world provides health coverage to everyone in their country fir much less than we pay per person in America. Why is that offensive to you?

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American

Nov-19-13 10:46 AM

To Marcia, But mommy the rest of the group is smoking it so why can't I. I want to be just like everyone else. Sounds like you have a real case of "peer" envy. Or in your case those big bad CEO's make more money and I want it without earning it.

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Marcia

Nov-19-13 9:59 AM

American let me explain it this way. The rest of the world pays much less for universal coverage and everyone gets covered. Now, mathematically how does the entire world do that? By not putting billions into CEO salaries and profits but instead using money intended to cover health care actually covering health care. What an amazing concept.

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HaveANiceDay

Nov-18-13 10:52 PM

also judeye, what do you propose we do with a girl that has 4 kids from 4 different guys before she turns the age of 22? I have a former student who did just that. What do we do with her and the thousands of others just like her across this country?

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HaveANiceDay

Nov-18-13 10:49 PM

Wrong again Judeye, If we have another depression I think we should help those that lose a job. I mean, at least they were working. I'm just sick of the cradle to grave mentality of you and your liberal friends. You want to throw money and free services to people that have no desire to get an education and find a job. They make me sick.

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American

Nov-18-13 7:06 PM

Speaking of simple math, judeye let me see if I can explain it this way. If it costs $100 to insure 1 person and 100 taxpayers split the cost then it is $1 each. But if you have 100 people that need insurance and get a discount of 50% and only 1 person pays for it then it doesn't seem to be as cheap does it. The same thing goes for single payer state or nation wide. In order to pay for it taxes MUST go up. Therefore it doesn't save the state any money.

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judeye

Nov-18-13 6:15 PM

HaveANiceDay..your question was if my ancestors received food stamps. No they did not..nor have I or my husband ever been on food stamps. Yet I have great compassion for those who must rely on them to feed their families.

However, 100 years ago people did die from lack of food. Heck, my parents told me stories of the Depression...which was not a hundred years ago..the hunger and pain..and the searching for food that so many..too many..of our fellow citizens had to do just to eat and not starve.

By the way... Poverty was rampant with seniors until social security

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judeye

Nov-18-13 6:10 PM

American..I do not know if it would or would not save us money. That is why I asked the question

I would think that it must or why would the people of Vermont and Mass both pass it? I wonder if their taxes went up..stayed the same or went down.

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joew

Nov-18-13 5:57 PM

American why are you throwing simple math out there,just trying to confuse the woman are you?

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killers

Nov-18-13 2:27 PM

Judeye, it is not a state congress, but either the state assembly or state senate.

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HaveANiceDay

Nov-18-13 12:17 PM

Judeye, my grandfather lived to the ripe old age of 86. His siblings all died after age 70. The life expectancy was because of the lack of medical research, NOT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF WELFARE!!! If you got cancer 100 years ago, you died. Heart disease, you died, tuberculosis, you died. They didn't die because the government wouldn't give them a hand out. You liberals will twist anything to rationalize your cradle to grave mentality.

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American

Nov-18-13 11:27 AM

Just a silly little question judeye. But how would New York save money by passing a single payer healthcare? So instead of paying for (just to use a number) 2 Million peoples medical we now pay for 10Million and save money by doing so? Please explain how this saves money for the state.

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judeye

Nov-18-13 8:21 AM

Does anyone know how much money we all would save in NY would pass the Single Payer medical bill?

If everyone were able to get medical insurance through the state?

There are bills in our State congress right now for single payer. Massachusetts did it under Romney. Vermont just passed single payer in their state.

Just wondering if anyone has the stats on how much it has saved these two states and if perhaps for an economical reason (let alone humanitarian one) NY should pursue the same.

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judeye

Nov-18-13 8:16 AM

HaveANiceDay...do you have any idea what life was like in America 100 years ago? When even doctors did not need to go to college? When most of the homes did not have bathtubs, and people only washed their hair once a month.

Life expectancy was only to age 47. Most people never graduated from high school and we had children working in coal mines and factories.

No my family never got food stamps. However, that was a time when you did not need an education to get a job, most people lived on farms, and yes many people died due to the lack of medical care and basic necessities. (life expectancy was only to 47) Women could not even vote! (ha ha Steiner will love that one)

You really do not want to compare now to a 100 years ago do you?

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