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SILVER?CREEK: A correct call on fire truck

November 30, 2013

When representing small towns, villages — and cities for that matter, trustees hardly ever want to make the smart call on a tough decision. Making that tough decision, in reality, is uncomfortable....

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Chuck392

Dec-03-13 9:18 PM

Phil - The report referencing the 19 disbanded departments did not recite all of them, but I know of some offhand being Brocton, North Harmony, Hanover, Mayville, Falconer. Lakewood and Busti merged. Many of the 19 locations also disbanded their local justices. Additionally, Silver Creek and Jamestown used to dispatch their own fire and police calls, now handled by the County. My source indicating the 19 was a report:

"Issues Associated with Local/Regional Policing in Chautauqua County Prepared by:Peter G. Sinden Professor, Department of Sociology" SUNY Fredonia.

Bottom line - there's been a lot of consolidation done already over the years. Did it result in a lot of savings? I don't know, but it's already behind us now.

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PhilJulian

Dec-01-13 6:27 PM

Chuck392 = I would like to know the locations of those 19 discontinued departments. The fact is that in a county of only 133,000 residents we need only one law enforcement department with satellite offices centrally located in the most populated areas. We are paying for unnecessary duplication of manpower and equipment The Observer editorial is correct.

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Chuck392

Dec-01-13 2:02 PM

local - I realize it still happens from time to time, but the editorial makes it look like no one, no place, ever says no to these things and also misleads the reader into thinking that SC is the first place dropping a PD when 19 before them have already disappeared.

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MatthiasJ

Dec-01-13 12:06 PM

Cudos to the board members who looked out for the taxpayers. There are 5 depts. in the Town of Hanover. Three of them are independent companies who receive no support from the Town of Hanover except what they get in their fire district coverage contracts. From that money and their fund raising they must buy equipment, purchase new vehicles, buy fuel, and pay their vehicle insurances which includes chiefs cars. SC on the other hand is supported by the taxpayers in the village budget. They have a contractual amount for fire protection in the budget plus another $12000 for equipment( FOIL The village budget and look for yourself) You also might want to FOIL the Trend report from Open Book NY and you can see exactly why the request was turned down. You also might want to ask what they are doing with all the money they raise in their village door to door fund drive yearly since they have little if anything to buy with it? As a non profit they should be required to expend those monies.

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localresident

Dec-01-13 10:36 AM

Chick, Fredonia just blew just south of a $million on fire trucks they don't need. So, no, some councils still don't get it.

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rumblefish

Dec-01-13 10:03 AM

chuck, true ignorance is having a agree/disagree box for comments, it's like having an elevator in an out house it just doesn't fit, all it does is make this forum a popularity contest

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Chuck392

Dec-01-13 9:42 AM

To add to my previous comment - there have been 19 communities in Chautauqua County that have eliminated their local police departments or local peace officers - that's right - nineteen of them!

As far as equipment cut from budget requests - go ask your town or village streets superintendent and they'll tell you. Go ask the city or village fire chief and you'll get the same story. To those whom disagreed with my original comment, your ignorance is showing.

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rumblefish

Dec-01-13 9:25 AM

"potential to grow" is like " a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while" JD has lost touch with" reality is not an option"

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Chuck392

Dec-01-13 8:16 AM

Wake up Observer! These types of local, hard-to-make decisions have been happening for years here in Chautauqua County. Don't pretend that they haven't. There are numerous towns and villages who have eliminated their local police. There have been plenty saying no to purchasing a new/replacement piece of equipment. These are just two examples of many. And you don't think that "small town newspaper reporting" hasn't hurt the area some?

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Christopher

Dec-01-13 8:08 AM

Exactly, 460 more jobs to be eliminated in point of fact, so where are the Observer efforts to keep that situation alive? Of course points will be made by the observer over public expenditures, a legitimate topic for sure, but then they not only ignore the closing of Lakeshore, but are working overtime to support those responsible. I'm surprised they even mentioned the pending job losses. And yes, that figure was 460!

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