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Social Security, Medicare not the problem

December 2, 2013

I am going to comment on the column in the OBSERVER (Nov. 12) headlined “Congressionally duped Americans” by Walter Williams. Mr....

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MikeDavis

Dec-09-13 4:35 PM

Just an FYI for all the people hollering that the poor are paying to much income taxes.

"(CNSNews****) - The top 40 percent of households by before-tax income actually paid 106.2 percent of the nation’s net income taxes in 2010, according to a new study by the Congressional Budget Office.

At the same time, households in the bottom 40 percent took in an average of $18,950 in what the CBO called “government transfers” in 2010."

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joew

Dec-06-13 5:15 PM

And your figures come from where Pauly? I said that those who claim PTSD regardless of the era or conflict are treated the same and receive the same consideration. They do and that is fact! You were in MI were you not?

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Christopher

Dec-06-13 7:48 AM

You know of course, Joey, that the numbers you quote are not actual VA CLAIMS, but estimates of effected people based on their experiences. I might add, that getting a PTSD rating for Vietnam was MUCH harder, which I've said in earlier posts. (I wish you'd keep track, Joey) I have no doubt that some diagnosis for PTSD could absolutely effect your ability to own a weapon. I might add, it might not even be wrong, depending on the degree of disability and symptoms. Why a person is dangerous isn't as important as whether that person actually IS dangerous.

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PhilJulian

Dec-05-13 9:33 AM

Those who support the draft apparently have forgotten the divided country we had in the Viet Nam war era. We lost 58,000 young American lives in a war that was based on lies much like Iraq and Afghanistan where we lost another 5,000 troops. Praise our soldiers for their service and bravery but never trust a government controlled by the military/industrial complex.

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joew

Dec-04-13 7:51 PM

I suppose it does depend on where the sep briefings take place,don't know.

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stangv8

Dec-04-13 7:18 PM

joew, not sure what to say about that. I interact with active duty, guard, and reservists daily and they're all saying it. It could also be where you separate at too. When I was stationed in Montana, VA personnel attended separation briefings and screened medical records and told people what they could apply for. When I actually retired, we were told to apply for what we thought we could get. Two different duty stations with two completely different briefings. Like I said, I deal with Army and Air Force daily and believe me, they ALL know that they can apply for it and what needs to be done to get it. Fortunately, a lot of them know not to have PSTD on your records as it will affect future employment clearances for those wanting to work in government.

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American

Dec-04-13 12:44 PM

Never thought I would see judeye agree with anything I said. I always thought ending the draft was a bad decision myself.

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joew

Dec-04-13 10:20 AM

Stang just got off the phone with the folks at my last assignment,10th Mountain Div. Separating soldiers are NOT told to apply for PTSD as part of the separation process. They ARE told that they should check with the VA to ascertain whether they may be due benefits. At Fort Drum there is a VA counselor available to those separating to answer questions. The VA counselor(who I spoke with)told me that they in no way, shape, or form tell folks to apply for PTSD. Perhaps the young man you refer to asked a question about PTSD during the process and was told to apply if he felt effected.

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PR24601

Dec-04-13 9:44 AM

judeye, your last post was a very good post. Steiner doesn't reflect that values or opinions of anyone but his pathetic self.

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Steiner

Dec-04-13 8:45 AM

judeye, you missed my posts of all the obstruction the democrats did since 1820. Right out of history books. Why do you miss obvious posts judeye ? you are like croinig, he misses facts too. Are you waiting mary magdalene to help. Hillary likes Ellie roosevelt. so judeye, tell us how the today congress is more obstructionist than the deeds i listed of all your southern democrats . i guess we just have to agree with you. One ,more thing, judeye , about those btus you keep ignoring. the answer ?

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Steiner

Dec-04-13 8:40 AM

judeye and her nonsense again. bring back the draft. judeye claims she is pro choice, yet wants forced labor from people. I guess choice is only for women and their reproductive organs.special needs i think. A strange definition of choice. this in a country that steals 40 % or more from its people.Judeye, you know nothing. another govt program she claims will do it.hey pr, shut up. I listed hisotrical facts, something cronig says i dont and you asy shut up. Why are you so mad at facts of history ? is it becuz the democrats did all the stuff i mentioned. And judeye wants more coercion !Liberals have been defined as the party of coercion and i see it here. the libs never grasp how mush coercion already exists.

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judeye

Dec-04-13 7:48 AM

American... Bring back the draft for men and women this time and they could rotate out sooner.

Yes, I want the draft back. Yes I will help people write letters to get co status. Yes I will help people get out of it. Yes I do think this will end the wars.

When more of the congress people's children..when more of the upper class wealthy folks kids start to have to go, they will find a way to end these wars and bring all of the troops back home where they belong.

How can you be in combat once, two, three and even more times, and NOT have PTSD? Coming home from WWII they called it 'shell shock'. Although I never witnessed it, my mother told me for several years after returning home my father would jump and often fall to the floor when a big truck would pass our house. I guess that is what happens to you when you return from HELL. And we all know war is HELL.

End this endless war. Bring our troops home.

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stangv8

Dec-03-13 10:46 PM

joew, The Air Force Times reported that stateside commissaries will close in 2015.

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stangv8

Dec-03-13 10:40 PM

Joew, I workd with a young man who just separated from the Army. He did two tours in Iraq working in the motor pool and never saw combat. During his separation briefing, he was told to apply with the VA for PSTD. His father, an Army Major and step mother, a Full Bird Colonel, both told him to never do it;he listened to his parents.

In 2010, the rules for claiming PSTD changed. Under the current regulations governing PTSD claims, unless the veteran is a combat veteran the VA decision makers are required to conduct extensive research to find out whether the veteran actually experience the claimed “in-service stressor.” The VA no longer will require corroboration of the stressor related to fear of hostile military or terrorist activity, eliminating the requirement for the VA to search for records to verify stressor accounts – which they say was “often a very involved and protracted process.

In country, express fear,convince shrink and you’ve got a VA Disability

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American

Dec-03-13 9:26 PM

I read that same thing about shutting them down. What a slap in the face to those still serving and to those who have served.

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joew

Dec-03-13 6:31 PM

Judeye I am outraged as well,now your friends(the administration) are talking about shutting down the commissaries both here in this country and abroad. Are you outraged about that? They also are talking about shutting down the Stars & Stripes AND the AFN as well. Are you outraged about that as well? Got to have that money for the social engineering projects,the illegal invaders,and the Obamacare disaster you know! Screw the military folks right?

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joew

Dec-03-13 6:20 PM

According to the National Center for PTSD(a part of the VA) between 11&20% of Iraq & Afghanistan Vets suffer from PTSD.(considering the multiple deployments as opposed to Vietnam that number is low)The number of gulf war Vets suffering is 10%. The number of Vietnam vets suffering is 30%. Note this is not my opinion but data from the VA. There is also data available from the CDC that substantiates the VA data. Having a PTSD rating awarded is not an easy "layup" Pauly,you should know that.

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Christopher

Dec-03-13 5:25 PM

You're right, Joey. Gettying a PTSD disability of at least 30%, generally more like 50%, isn't a "slam dunk". It's more like an "easy layup", with maybe an 85% success rate. That's based on SUCESSFUL CLAIMS, Joey, not total veterans who've served. Vietnam Veterans had to fight and scrap and claw for claims more legitimate, and successful not half that figure.

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CadeFoster

Dec-03-13 5:25 PM

When the SS system was started it was geared to 1 in ten americans reached retirement age. now its more like 4 out of ten reach retirement age. And now it seem like they pay for anything and everything.

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joew

Dec-03-13 5:18 PM

Stang wait until this State via the UNSAFE act gets started using the PTSD (disability)data to deny purchase of firearms or deny renewal of permits. Despite what some would have you believe,it is not a slam dunk getting PTSD rated.

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DKexpat

Dec-03-13 3:11 PM

The solution to Social Security funding/solvency?

Simple: Soylent Green :-)

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Christopher

Dec-03-13 3:04 PM

Stang, I know who she is, I know what the problem is, and you left out o0ne important thing. That is that ALL returning Iraq/Afghanistan vets know about the PTSD claim situation,and THOUSANDS are taking advantage of it! If it was just what you said, all those people getting checks would have other physical, service related issues, and that is simply NOT the case. Basically, if you set one foot in Afghanistan for 1 minute you can get a Disbility for PTSD, even if you manned a typewriter. As one who holds a CIB, spent most of my tour prowling the "wild lands" on the Laotian border/Ashau Valley area, that just PI__SSES me off! And I had it a lot better than many others who hold that award.

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stangv8

Dec-03-13 12:23 PM

Tammy Duckworth was deployed to Iraq as a Blackhawk helicopter pilot for the Illinois Army National Guard. She was one of the first Army women to fly combat missions during Operation Iraqi Freedom until her helicopter was hit by an RPG on November 12, 2004. Duckworth lost her legs and partial use of her right arm in the explosion and was awarded a Purple Heart for her combat injuries.

Tammy Duckworth is now a Congresswoman from Illinois. Go to U-Tube and type in... “Tammy Duckworth shames IRS contractor”... and spend eight minutes watching this amazing woman. You’ll see exactly what’s wrong with the VA and its disability claims system and how the undeserving are taking from the deserving

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stangv8

Dec-03-13 12:07 PM

Christopher, you mentioned military VA disability claims and how Iraq/Afghanistan Veterans claims are processed much faster than Vietnam Veterans. I just spoke with a retired Navy Petty Officer who finally had his VA disability claim approved after two years. The VA told him if he had claimed PSTD, his claim would have been approved much faster because PSTD is a mental disorder and gets top priority. All separating military personnel who have been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are being told to claim PSTD during their separation briefings. All they have to do is meet three simple conditions to get it approved. Unfortunately, these men and women claiming PSTD and getting it approved will have possible consequences in their civilian life. I know of one Veteran who only claimed it to speed up his disability claim. It was approved and when it was, the FAA pulled his civilian pilots license. His whole future plans went down the drain for a VA disability check.

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American

Dec-03-13 11:35 AM

"How dare we send these people back into combat 3, 4, 5,+ times???" Because these heroic people have volunteered to serve their country while a majority set back home and cry about the military and the spending for these troops. Bring back the draft for men and women this time and they could rotate out sooner.

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