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No deal

Fredonia rejects Pomfret's version of fire contract

December 21, 2013

In the ongoing debate over the fire protection district contract extension between Fredonia and Pomfret, the Fredonia Village Board rejected the town’s altered, one-year version of the contract on......

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WNYfan

Jan-01-14 11:49 AM

Poor handling by Town of Pomfret elected officials. You make a deal verbally, then you get it in writing ASAP. You don't wait until the last minute then cry the blues in the local newspaper, stand your ground, stomp your feet, and expect to get your way. You screwed up. I see the Town ended up signing the contract that the Village originally offered. They didn't have much choice after this fiasco, did they?

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rumblefish

Dec-22-13 8:44 AM

common heard expressions when one disagrees: go pound salt, take the train, get bent, go pipe yourself, but our favorite is K.M.A., and if this is taken as a personal insult, we have two nouns for you,....your welcome

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rumblefish

Dec-22-13 8:39 AM

common heard expressions when one disagrees: go pound salt, take the train, get bent, go pipe yourself, but our favorite is K.M.A., and if this is taken as a personal insult, we have two nouns for you,....your welcome

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Christopher

Dec-22-13 6:30 AM

For those 3 disagrees... POUND SALT!!!

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Dcronlg

Dec-21-13 8:44 PM

"We don't need no stinkin' Town of Pomfret." - Fredonia Village Board

"They can go pound salt with their Fire Department contract." - Town of Pomfret

"tick-tock...' -reality clock against Town of Pomfret

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Christopher

Dec-21-13 7:29 PM

"Pound salt", or to tell someone to "go pound salt", without the added wording mentioned by Rod Pennica, generally means the same thing as "Go to He_l", or "drop dead", and perhaps even the more modern, "What EVER". It definitely means can take their opinion and...place it elsewhere. By itself, it's not rude, juvenile or crude. A Tempest in a Teapot, for certain.

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HaveANiceDay

Dec-21-13 5:37 PM

What does pound salt mean?

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Captain

Dec-21-13 3:33 PM

Didn't the OBSERVER previously report that the village offered a 2 yr contract, with a total increase of $18K over 2 yrs? The other option the Town could accept was a 1 yr deal, but opting for the 1 yr deal would cause the avg increase ($9K/yr FOR 2 YRS=$18K) to jump to $13K FOR 1 YR. I'm pretty sure the figures I read stated $13K(1yr)+$5K(2yr)=$18K total increase (over 2yrs).

I'm sure the Town would like this to mean $9K per/yr, which it is PROVIDED the Town agrees to 2yrs. It does NOT mean $9K for 1 yr unless the Town has finally worn the village down into accepting its plea for a "fair & equitable" agmt.

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commentor

Dec-21-13 2:29 PM

go pound salt Often confused with 'go pound sand' but more refined and less vulgar. To pound sand infers 'up an orifice' but to pound salt has more to do with a useless activity.

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RodPennica

Dec-21-13 2:22 PM

Well, since the fire contract is settled (will be, anyhow), the topic seems to be "pound salt", so, in the interest of topic diversion, I tried to learn the origin of the phrase but there seems to be no agreement on where it came from...but one thing does seem sure, and that is the part that Paul left off since the phrase is usually completed with "up your - - -". So, I'd personally like to thank Paul for invoking the less vulgar version. Another thing that is for sure, the Town really does stuff for the village and the village knows it... go ahead, get mad and call me names but that's not the topic here... it's POUND SALT and I addressed that for crying out loud already. Merry Christmas Everybody!

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commentor

Dec-21-13 12:38 PM

Bob1957 do yourself a favor..SHUT UP...you are making an a ss of yourself. The more you post the dumber you sound. The Town does NOTHING for the Village, even though Pennica says it does, and now they want fire protection for nothing. Eckman and Penharlow must think they run the show. They not only didn't present it to the Town Board they didn't even bother to tell the Supervisor. Village tell the Town contract is on the table take it or leave it!!!

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localresident

Dec-21-13 11:59 AM

Maybe the Town can wait 90 days so it will cost its taxpayers another $90,000 from simple inactivity.

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Christopher

Dec-21-13 11:51 AM

Geeze, Bob, I'm SO sorry you were offended by my use of the VERY common expression to "pound salt". I had no idea you were so sensitive. Perhaps I could have said the Village can tell the Town to "take a hike"? Would that be more acceptable? Somebody is clearly lying here. Was Mr. Keefe lying about Mr. Steger's comment about being unaware of any 1 year proposal? If not, then some Town Board members have some serious explaining to do (my first choice, to be honest)Anway, the Village should inform the Town that the proposal is on the table, any other action other than signing it is far too late, and the Town should begin looking elsewhere for it's fire protection. There now, Bob, was that more to your liking? Now that I've rectified that little problem for you Bob, YOU can pound salt!

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Marcia

Dec-21-13 11:23 AM

What I don't understand is if what Ms. Eckman and Mr. Harlow says is true, why did they never present it to the town board? They appear to be duplicitous. What exactly is their agenda? It doesn't seem like they are looking out for their constituents. When is the next election?

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Captain

Dec-21-13 9:32 AM

I'm just as guilty as the next guy when it comes to assumptions, but bob1957 has me beat this time. If you could hold a muni legally responsible when no agmt exists, there'd be no pressure on the Town to get it done.

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commentor

Dec-21-13 9:21 AM

Town Supervisor Steger didn't know anything about a one year contract being brought to the Village Board? If this doesn't tell you what a bunch of bozo's those Townies are. The other thing even if they said in discussion they would bring a one year contract to the V/B for approval....guess what they did and they did not approve it!! The Town is embarrassing itself. PLEASE annex yourself to the Village!!!!

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sunny1

Dec-21-13 8:38 AM

This is ridiculous and not the first time this has happened. Both boards should be ashamed of themselves. You are dealing with the lives and welfare of others. Grow up and get it done already!!!!

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bob1957

Dec-21-13 8:30 AM

POUND SALT, Why how mature! I wonder what NYS Municipal Law and other sections state about fire protection when an agreement is not renewed in a timely fashion. Would Keefe and The Village Board actually prohibit and order a no response to a fire in the Town of Pomfret if the agreement expires and can they do that when an agreement has existed but is not renewed yet?

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Captain

Dec-21-13 8:17 AM

...pound salt? This is a fire service issue. It doesn't involve municipal snow plow drivers ;)

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judeye

Dec-21-13 7:50 AM

"what both boards agreed to take back to get approved," Ms Eckman

So if this occurred in mid November as stated...was it brought before the Pomfret board then and what was the vote? Not the new one year contract..but this so called agreement that they had reached with the Village in November.

Just look at Pomfret town board minutes as Christopher said..where is it presented..and what was the vote. I would think after it had been voted on, Pomfret board would inform the Village of the vote results.

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Christopher

Dec-21-13 6:52 AM

Obviously, no meetings should ever take place with Town and Village elected officials without detailed minutes, the best scenario being a tape recording. Tell the Town to pound salt.

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