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Yes, they know it’s Christmas

December 25, 2013

Africa is home to 350 million Christians out of a population of one billion, with Christianity first appearing there in the middle of the first century AD....

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Christopher

Dec-25-13 6:52 AM

Wow, dogma of one kind used to support another kind of dogma, humanitarian dogma being used to support the most base and mercenary dogma there is. Merry Christmas. God rest ye Merry Gentlemen, let all who differ die.

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judeye

Dec-25-13 7:49 AM

Has this author looked up the reasons for famines? Although poor government management might be one cause, it is far out weighed by other causes such as droughts, overpopulation, and natural disasters.

Helping others is NOT one of the causes. A free market does not decrease famines. Helping others...such as with gifts that will help promote more self sufficiency can and do help. In emergency situations such as Bangladesh, FOOD, WATER AND MEDICAL supplies came as a great aid to those dying and starving.

This is the time to share and care.

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 7:51 AM

How stupid can you be christopher ? A lot, as you always post nonsense. The major cause of famine is not crop failure but political. the political people are always of a marxist or socialist bent. just like you christopher ! paul, you neglect the greatest failure again and again, the public schools. they are run by socialist nuts, the teachers union. MacLauglin is correct, the soft heads, the socialists and the liberals get everything backwards. I bet you thought and still think it was the govt that gave us the abundance we have paul . Paul, you are one confused liberal. unable to grasp reality. Hey paul, please list all the govt programs, the liberal largesse that cronig likes to say that gave us what we have today. I an still waiting posters. Private enterprise, white males , not gals, did all of it. the rest were onlookers.they got confused and thought it was the govt, like Paul !

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 8:00 AM

judeye, you got it wrong too ! free markets did it. look where the govt gets a hold of things. venezuela for instance. they have shortages of everything in a land fomerly of plenty. judeye thats why women like you should not be allowed to vote. You keep getting everything wrong judeye ! It is not natural causes mostly but political reasons that cause famine.look at north korea , politics again and famine. The continent of Africa is a basket case of soft headed do gooders. Just like judeye and paul. so judeye, you name as noone sems to be answering the govt project list that gave us what ewe have today in abundance and taken for granted.you set us straight judeye. You always seem so sure of yourself but are completly wrong in everypost ! i forgot, it was the ethanol mandate by the softheads like judeye and christopher that drove prices up in 3rd world and caused riots.politics again judeye. you missed that too. judeye you have a perception problem. liberals are softheads !

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 8:08 AM

hey judeye, have you loked up all my science facts ? i dont think so as you never answer any of my facts. here is one for your unlearned mind. Fritz haber and his ammonia from air process, feeds about half the world, bread from air. uses natural gas for the hydrogen to make ammonia. splitting water with electricity is expensive . So you and the LWV are promoting at least higher costs , if not famine by your unlearned , ignorant , anti fracking response.politics again by unlearned women like the LWV and you judeye !hey judeye, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER WHAT WILL REPLACETHE QUADRILLION BTUS AND PLETHORA OF CHEMICALS FROM HYDROCARBONS. judeye, do you know what a hydrocarbon is judeye ? do you know anything judeye ? you tell people to look up stuff and NEVER look up or reply yourself ! thats a lib folks, softheaded. JUDEYE SET US STRAIGHT GRANNY! show us how smart you are. care and share your thoughts with us . i have seen industry, You have seen your mental delsuions.

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 8:17 AM

judeye, steiner wil wait and watch for your response. hint , talk to the cluess gals at the LWV. talk to cronig and christopher. now is your chance judeye to show us how smart you liberals are. go for it judeye. tell us of the govt program , the diversity, the central planning , etc. all the liberal nonsense that you think actually worked. tell us of the women who changed the world.judeye, dont disappoint us. tell us to look up stuff while you ignore facts. show us it is do as i say not as i do in that respect. In short, judeye. You will then list all your mental shortco m ings, the delusions and other things that constantly plague your mind. tell uas of the miraculous govt, caring and sharing that did it. dont mention those evil corporations, even though they made the products cheap and abundant.all facts judeye, if you look up what i post.

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commentor

Dec-25-13 9:16 AM

Amen!!! The rich and the govt has been trying to "fix" Africa for centuries and it ain't workin!! The more they give the more they take and just keep reproducing generation after generation. It's just a big welfare program.

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Christopher

Dec-25-13 9:22 AM

"Are there no Prisons? Are there no Poor Houses"

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1Laona

Dec-25-13 10:09 AM

This is the same story as Haiti,no matter how much money you pump in it won't change until they have their own "Boston Tea Party",The trouble is when "they" have a change in those in power they're just more bad guys-where are their Washingtons,Jeffersons,Franklins?Until true Patriots"fight the fight for freedom" Nothing will change.

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joew

Dec-25-13 10:20 AM

I suggest some who are critical of Dan's commentary read up a bit by going to "US Aid to Ethiopia 1984" Especially read the article containing statements by Birhan Woldu,now a 28 year old who survived the famine in 1984. Maybe then you will understand what it is that Dan is writing about.

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Christopher

Dec-25-13 12:26 PM

"Mankind should have been my business!!!"

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Dcronlg

Dec-25-13 1:07 PM

My god, its incredibly amazing to me -- really quite mystifying -- how all you lilly white rural folks, tucked away in one of the farthest corner of NYS, living in this country ofplenty for generations, and HALF a world away from Africa -- really, really, speak and believe LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE A BLACK AFRICAN, A STARVING BLACK AFRICAN AND ACTUALLY LIVE IN AFRICA!!!

Serisouly, over thepast year or so, I've shaken my head at some of this stuff coming out of your mouths -- a product of how your brains operate -- but this one, this one in particular -- where you pontificate AS IF you know what to live in a famine is like, let alone, KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE BLACK, A BLACK AFRICAN, STARVING & LIVING IN AFRICA!

You guys are gap-toothed idiots to say the least...

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joew

Dec-25-13 4:01 PM

Dcroakernig your total lack of understanding,your total lack of what Dan is writing about,and your total lack of doing a bit of research before quacking with your usual BS is oh so typical of the clueless.

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 5:09 PM

stupid cronig is at it again. whats it like to be black ? hmm, why dont they imitate the whites ! India says now colonialism was the best thing that ever happened to India. the whites did NOT start slavery in africa. the africans did it to themselves.the dutch found slavery flourishing in africa in the 1600s. My deity cronig, you are ignorant beyond all comprehension, like judeye actually says she is.the slavs were slaves too and you do NOT see what is in africa in the slavic lands. explain that unlearned cronig.even the inner cities are in ruin cronig and who is the voting block there cronig? Africans. the pattern is clear. Look at the major cities across america. how did ya miss that , liberal ? oh, the africans want to take land away from white south africans to level the playing field. more marxist bull again. famine is around the corner. why are liberals stupid ?

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 5:13 PM

hey cronig, you do know that the continent of africa is loaded with raw materials , oil, gas, gold, platinum etc.trillions waiting to be made. who got the technology to the africans to capitalize in this ? It was white man technology cronig. here in WNY we have gas, but the mentally ill people wont let us drill for it. Look around the world, a country like japan , with virtually no resources became great via free markets. they slipped since the libs took over. africa could be great, but the locals are ignorant like the posters here. see the pattern cronig ? bet ya dont do you ?

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 5:19 PM

more for cronig, political induced famine right in america. done by guess who ? the liberals like cronig. first, a famine of alcohol,prohibiton, by the do gooder women. caring and sharing to stop the violence. Put legit booze companies out of busienss. A govt induced famine. Stupid liberals. Second. the dumping of food stocks on the farms in the Great depression. It was thought there was too much food and that depressed prices. Who was in control of the govt ? Stupid liberals like FDR.the unions wnet on strike , a famine again to make sure money was tight. Now to present. the libs against hydrocarbons. Carbon runs ALL of life and petrochem science as we know it. Famine wanted. Cold too ! Who is advocating this ? Liberals again . see the pattern cronig !

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Steiner

Dec-25-13 5:26 PM

i saved the best for last, especially for cronig. the libs made a famine of money in our cities. how ? the public employee stooges, Paul christophers darlings, have made and continue to make extravagant demands on the tax payers.Paul never says anything. everywhere there is a famine, there is a liberal or marxist idiot in charge. rememebr the Ukraine famine in the 30's ? those marxist leninists again.they threw the food out ! they were lionized by the western liberals.put a stupid liberal in charge and we will see famine in money, energy, education. Oh look education, another christopher union stooge thing ! christopher where are you ? we got poor results with increasing expenditures. all a success to the stupid liberals around the world ! why are you liberals so stupid ?

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czychrab

Dec-25-13 6:31 PM

Dcronig, you might want to suggest a quick trip to Detroit. We need to worry about our own country for now. We are in a spiral that will lead to more and more bankruptcy. That song has always caused me to think how blessed they are not to be consumed with the greed produced in countries where retail is King at Christmas.

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Christopher

Dec-25-13 7:12 PM

``If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, ``they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population""

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1Laona

Dec-25-13 8:43 PM

Pontiff Paul-another one of your undercover outfits?

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Christopher

Dec-26-13 5:56 AM

Geeze, 1laona, I'm shocked! You have an opinion on an issue other than guns!!? I didn't get it, but that's ok.

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judeye

Dec-26-13 6:32 AM

This is the time to share and care.

and nine people disagree

Really? and you are proud of it?

Now Pope Francis addresses the issue of greed...and inequality...directly... "How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" "Just as the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say 'thou shalt not' to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills," "I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people, the lives of the poor,”

Or do you just write him off as well..for being too liberal...or following the teaching of Jesus a bit too closely?

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Christopher

Dec-26-13 7:23 AM

Judeye, the rightest of the Right Wing have always talked a lot of Jesus and the bible, but cherry pick it to no end, never seeming to find the contradictions in Jesus teachings and the Bible with what they've chosen to believe is "the word of God". I am NOT a practicing Catholic, and am, for the most part, against most organized religions due to the harm done on its behalf throughout history and the World, but, I LIKE this Pope. He's making an EFFORT. Also, notice little is ever said relative to Africa and it's issues how many of the arms used by dictators there to murder their people are bought from the United States, the largest arms dealer in the world. We also give money to each and every one of those governments.

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joew

Dec-26-13 8:35 AM

Judeye perhaps you would not have been on the receiving end of so many "disagree" hits if you were actually commenting on the context of what Dan wrote about and had done some research as I suggested in my post of yesterday. No one is suggesting that people be allowed to starve or die from malnutrition. The solution is not to just keep giving monies and food stuff,but rather to help institute programs to prepare people for when disaster or drought occurs.

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Steiner

Dec-26-13 9:05 AM

hey christopher, the right wing cherry picks ? you gotta be kidding. It is you paul who cherry picks. Over and over you miss the greed of your own democratic party and the mess they made in the public schools. YOU NEVER ANSWER MY REPEATED REQUESTS ON THIS PAUL. So paul get off your high horse. Go to detroit. see what the libs and the city folk have done with riots and out of control govt spending. Selling guns around the world bad ? No way. Its like the movie, fort apache the bronx. Africa is walled by oceans. sell them all the weapons they want. Remember idi amin ?I think he ate people. Part of that great african tradition. I know brains were eaten in antiquity. Paul, africas mess is their own doing, just like the inner cities.

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