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IT’S BITTER!

Chilling temps can be health risk

January 7, 2014

Chautauqua County needs to be prepared for another burst of bone-chilling temperatures and record snowfall across the region, which started Monday morning and will continue on through tonight....

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 1:38 PM

Green energy is energy that is produced in such a way as to minimize its negative impact on the environment. Stiener it is green energy in a diffenrent production method. No Co2s, no fossil fuel. Energy from the sun and magnetic fields can be called green. I am 100% for you or whomever is attemping to recreate this. I know about the 1930s tesla car. And if they can do it with a car they can make a heater for homes the same way.*****I would even help you some of the grunt work if it helps. Bu the way 12 grade not 6th is my education level,lol. All good. I am reading all of tesla stuff now, istead of just hearing about it. Let me know what you think of tanguska ? One thing I never heard is who has the car now?

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 1:00 PM

And by the way, there is always going to be more water coming to earth via space,just not in huge volumes. But the water currently on earth and in the atmosphere combined will be in the same volume no matter the physical state, till more ice enters Earths system from space. Just because water results from combustion engines does not mean the water was not there on earth and in the atmosphere. It does not add more water to water, it cant. But we can add more Co2 floating in the atmosphere and we are. Co2 is in the same volume also, just it does not break down from the atmosphere like water does. 100 year life cycle for Co2, and more.

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 11:24 AM

Missed some words had to repost....And Stiener, for the umpteenth time the volume of Water going up to the atmosphere and then comes down in the form of rain when it reaches the saturartion point. It does not sit in the atmosphere constantly increaseing every day and can not go over 100 %, for Co2 it takes 100 years for it to partially decay. Water in the atmosphere is and has been there since inception of the earth. The amount of Co2 has risen at high rates since 1960. 300 ppm to now, almost 400ppm. tHE PARTS PER MILLIOM does NOT come down IN cO2, like water does. So tell me how we can get more than 100% saturation of water in the atmosphere. We all know how the climate works.

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 11:16 AM

And Stiener, for the umpteenth time Water goes up in comes down. It does not sit in the atmosphere for 100 years it takes to partially decay. Water in the atmosphere is been there since inception. The amount of Co2 has risen at high rates since 1960. 300 ppm to now almost 400ppm. It does NOT come down like water does. So tell me how we can get more than 100% saturation of water in the atmosphere. we all know how the climate works.

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Steiner

Jan-08-14 9:07 AM

cade, for the umpteenth time, there is more water on the ground and in the air vs years ago. Duh, burning stuff adds water and co2 to the air. if co2 level is up due to burning than total water content must be also as you cant get one without the other. comets add water to the earth. tesla stuff is not green energy as we know it. that would be solar and wind. tesla stuff would be advanced physics,something you and the posters here do not understand.what is not green about hydrocarbons ? Plants need co2.

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 9:04 AM

Co2 remains in the atmosphere longer than the other major heat-trapping( not heat absrobing) gases emitted as a result of human activities. It takes about a decade for methane (CH4) emissions to leave the atmosphere (it converts into CO2) and about a century for nitrous oxide (N2O).In the case of CO2, much of today’s emissions will be gone in a century, but about 20 percent will still exist in the atmosphere approximately 800 years from NOW.

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 8:58 AM

Well STEINER, i see you can argue with this one. Steiner,several times you mentioned (posted) how Co2 is only at 400 ppm. What you failed to mention is in 1960 it was only at 310 ppm. Do you think there is more water in the air then, compared to now or less water.

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 8:57 AM

I talk about water in the atmosphere, stiener talks about water on the ground. So STiener you are telling us we have more clouds today (moisture in the air, humidity ) then 50 years ago.

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CadeFoster

Jan-08-14 8:54 AM

LOL< STeiner, once again IS THE TESALA PROJECT< GREEN ENERGY OR NOT ????? YOU swear in every post green enrgy wont work !!!!!!!!! but yet you brag on how you are work on this project. LOL< PLEASE MAKE A DECISION. Tesla green or not !!!!!!

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Steiner

Jan-08-14 8:14 AM

hey smart judeye, if the planet is warming, where is all the cold air arising from. It certainly is cold out. Once again you miss basic science. judeye, you dony know anything about anything. its amazing your lack of knowledge. i would expect it from a 5 year old but a granny as you say you are. More and more people are seeing thru this climate change myth, as pr pointed out. water is the highest heat trapping gas in the atmosphere. its level is always greater than that of methane . co2 or whatever else gas the liberals can conjure up. The earth has been leaking methane to the air for years. Co2 also vents. simpletons like you juduye are a threat to society.they are too ignorant to function in a tech world.again, my btu question judeye ?

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Steiner

Jan-08-14 8:06 AM

cade, you are like judeye, a 6th grader. there is more water n the planet now than in the 60's. Over and over i have said that fire yields water. We have pumped a trillion barrels of oil since petro began.That does not include the water form natural gas or coal burning. that does not include the water from comets. Teslas car would not be green energy as you know it. green energy today is something that does not work. wind and solaer do not work and can NEVER replace thermal. Teslas car was driven by an electrical connection to the air glow layer. tesla learned this from his famous 1899 colorado springs experiments. one more time for you cade, co2 is transparent to heat. it lets pass pass in and out of the earth easily. read prs post over and over till you get it. You have not so far. An indication of learning disability like judeye suffers from.

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Steiner

Jan-08-14 7:59 AM

judeye, it is you who are drunk. This weather pattern is a repeat of the 70s when the libs said we were in a global cooling mode. they had the science to prove it. we just had to do something they said. they even wanted to put coal dust in the arctic to absorb heat. That passed as new science , they claimed proved that cooling theory faulty. now judeye, it is hard for people like you to understand science. Even cade has problems. first co2 absorbs heat, then it does not. methane does but its level is < that of co2. But water trumps them all. So judeye, the river of wind, the jet is the weather steerer. It is not drunk. the liberals are stupid. Over and over i have posted what science knows and over and over you dont understand it. judeye, about my btu question, got a hot air answer ?

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judeye

Jan-08-14 7:40 AM

It is like the arctic is DRUNK. That is the video I just watched that explained exactly what is going on here now with the frigid jet stream making a nose dive down into even the deepest south of our Country.

Will try to explain in very simple terms. Look up the video on youtube. Warm air takes up more space than cold. So if you stood in the clouds in DC you would see a slope down towards arctic. However, as the arctic warms up, this slope becomes less and less, allowing the frigid warm jet streams to flow further and further south.

Very good video..easy to understand. the arctic is drunk.

Oh, my brother in law from Anchorage just had to rub it in..it is 30 degrees F there...much warmer than here.

Yes, this is partly a result of climate change.

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hadenough

Jan-08-14 7:16 AM

The polar vortex is due to a change in the jet stream which is bringing the cold air which normally stays in Alaska down to the lower 48. This is like hurricane Sandy that hit the Jersey coast last year. Weather patterns change if only once in 100 years. So what all this has to do with diesel engines and CO beats the h*ll out of me. It's cold stay warm and this to shall pass.

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CadeFoster

Jan-07-14 10:58 PM

Steiner,several times you mentioned (posted) how Co2 is only at 400 ppm. What you failed to mention is in 1960 it was only at 310 ppm. Do you think there is more water in the air then, compared to now or less water.

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CadeFoster

Jan-07-14 6:06 PM

Of course that would not work on a diesel motor. SPeaking of which, I know a guy in cassadaga who knew the guy who made a diesel motor not much bigger than a 1ft cube. Iask him why this never was mass produced, once again big brother companies brought the patent. 7 figures. And gone

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CadeFoster

Jan-07-14 6:02 PM

Petrochemical companies will fight tooth and nail to Not See this in mass production. ...... Do you remember the guy who invent and oil filter that could get 250,000 miles out of one change ? The show was on TV in the 70s. After running the car for 250 thousand miles without a single oil change, they took the car in a gargage, disassemble the motor and there was virtually no wear. Not 1 single oil change. You know how big business is. They purchased the patent and gone. I cant even find a trace of this on the internet. Can you imagine cars not needing an oil change till they reach 250 thousand mile. Consumer oil consumption would go from 415 quarts of oil at current oil change suggestions to 5 quarts. now multiply that by the 600 milion car on the road in the world.

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CadeFoster

Jan-07-14 5:50 PM

Now back to green energy,is there any reason this (your Tesla car syatem remake) is not green energy that you say wont work ? these are friendly questions not anything else.

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CadeFoster

Jan-07-14 5:47 PM

1st. you will need the diagrams and blueprints to begin making the car and power supply system, I doubt this is readly available. Do you have access to this, or starting from scratch?

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CadeFoster

Jan-07-14 5:45 PM

Stiener, All the shows and documentary shows I have watched, never put Tesla and Tunguska in the same picture. Wonder why that is. Was the goverments hiding something ?

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CadeFoster

Jan-07-14 5:20 PM

get to eat dinner mow, but will read all recent post then. But again I NEVER SAID Co2 absorbs heat !!!!!! Here.....The calculated “radiative forcing” (RF) of each climate driver. CO2 has the highest positive RF value of all the human-influenced climate drivers compared by the IPCC. Other gases have more potent heat-trapping ability molecule per molecule than CO2 (e.g. methane), but are simply far less abundant in the atmosphere and being added more slowly. Sorry i mis called it refrac value in my last post. Again Co2 itself is not a heat absorber.

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Steiner

Jan-07-14 3:43 PM

hey pr, i apologize for the catch on post. but you clued in on the water vapor . Water vapor is a big thing on a planet earth. A gallon of gasoline burned yields a gallon of water . Do you remember when after 911 all the planes were grounded ? What did you see ? A sky that did NOT have all those vapor trails in them.what did we see, well at least me and my friends before the 1st gulf war and then the wars started by Bush ? the sky was full of vapor trails. We would go to the lake and look up and see so many trails from so many jets that it milked the sky out in places. Even Al gore finally had to say, humans are adding a huge amount of water by burning hydrocarbons to the air. he is right on that one. burning natural gas gives more water than burning coal. these are facts and the libs just ignore them. did ya ever see those WW2 videos where the bombers in europe left all those vapor trails ? it is something to see all those vapor trails.happy trails libs

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PR24601

Jan-07-14 2:56 PM

Steinertron - I didn't "finally" catch on. I've read multiple "global warming" research papers since 2005 that debunk the "CO2 as heat absorber" myth. It's water vapor.

In fact, the increase in CO2 levels is likely a result of warming temperatures due to increase in water vapor, rather than being the cause of anything.

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Steiner

Jan-07-14 2:41 PM

hey pr, you finally caught on inspite of all the posts by cade. See ? the analytical people were right after all. It was a Phd analytical chemist from a huge foreign, french sounding company that clued me into this. he said steiner, the co2 thoery is a fraud. that chemist along with my help produced millions of dollars of products in the life saving end of my chemical work. He is retired, but his work lives on. He was so good analytically he actually guessed one of formulations, right down to the trade name and %'s.so much for unidentifiable chemicals. there aint no such thing with a good chemist Now thats science folks. Not the stuff the libs post. People should talk to chemists and physicists, we are really interesting people . we really are.

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Steiner

Jan-07-14 2:33 PM

hey cade, the grower is related to my energized gas preparation. there, i energize gasoline, 25% better mileage for a penny a gallon. It makes gasoline renewable even out of the well. We got more MPG than nature made in it originally. all of this is due to liberal largess, ooops, thats what cronig thinks. Nope, its due to zoroaster again and the great scientists like all them nobel winners.of course not a poster here understands quantum physics, but they sure can post names ! now all of this can and will cure cancer, but then i need a licence to practice medicine. our beloved govt again. gee, graverobbing was common in the early med school days. now corpses have more rights than unborn babies.womens choice you know.

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