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U.S. quickly going to pot

January 15, 2014

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Psychofux

Jan-19-14 7:07 AM

I think we should define the drug laws according to the Bible. The first page of the Bible clearly states that "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it." So in its natural form, all "drugs" are legal. If there is any synthesis, then it is illegal. So acid, ******, cocaine, meth, etc would be illegal, and increase the time in jail for those. But natural plant parts would be legal to sell and be taxed. Unless you think that the plants have evolved beyond God's intended use.

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Psychofux

Jan-19-14 7:01 AM

Sell it and tax the*****out of it. Nobody has ever overdosed on it, and there are many people already walking around high. Irresponsible adults have always let kids have access to it, that will not change. Let's increase the punishment for "contributing to the delinquency of a minor" then the jails will only have to make room for about 1/10 the number of cells that are currently used up for dealing and possession.

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hadenough

Jan-18-14 10:01 PM

1972. That was 42 years ago. A lot has changed since then. Just look at the city of Dunkirk. There has been no documented evidence that any one has over dosed from smoking to much marijuana. However people with glaucoma and diseases that have no cure can find temporary relief from smoking marijuana. As a matter of fact a person on government assistance can use the card to legally purchase the drug. So it seems the Federal Government is backing the use of marijuana in states that legalize it. Will New York help these people or will the politicians decide re election is a better choice?

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joew

Jan-18-14 3:43 PM

Cade it won't,never said it would unless it is a stepping stone to legalize the garbage for recreational use.

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joew

Jan-18-14 3:19 PM

Mike you'll have to explore those studies on your own(there are many) as if I suggest sites than as you say it becomes propaganda. I just don't understand why we should legalize yet ANOTHER mind altering substance,please give the reason for that? Go to friendsdrivesober**** to start with. Did you read about people being able to use their EBT cards in Colorado to purchase the garbage?

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CadeFoster

Jan-18-14 1:53 PM

And how is legalizing Medical pot going to change how kids smoke pot,lol

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MikeDavis

Jan-18-14 11:53 AM

I've never known or heard of anyone to stoned to have a blackout experience joew. I have heard of many, many people blacking out from alcohol. The only anecdotal evidence I have heard is that people stoned tend to drive very slowly, not fast or recklessly. I have also never heard of anyone getting violent using it. I sure can't say the same for alcohol. As for the studies you cite, who was funding them? It's amazing the results always seem to support the findings the person paying for them agrees with, wouldn't you agree? And as far as devolping brains...NO one is suggesting that it be legal for minors. Not one person asking for decrimilization is saying it should be available to anyone under 18. You actually sound like the typical propaganda spokesman here joew. I don't agree with you on this issue but respectfully ask you to look into a few other sites than the government and alcohol industry funded ones.

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joew

Jan-17-14 4:00 PM

Sure Mike,study after study and research by leading medical authorities proves what this does to developing brains.(our children)We will have more people on the road(stoned) thus increasing the likelihood of more accidents. Why allow yet another intoxicant to complicate safety matters. Get a natural "high" by taking a walk in the wild or volunteering at helping seniors,or at the VA in Buffalo or Erie. Sure glad I never touched that garbage.

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VickiW

Jan-17-14 1:10 PM

good and bad, pros and cons of marijuana; it was never intended to be all inclusive. But, I love the back and forth dialogue that it has sparked.

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VickiW

Jan-17-14 1:08 PM

Let me start by saying that when I write my commentaries, I never do so with the intent of offending anyone; so if I have offended you please accept my sincere apology. Also, please understand that there is a limited amount of space in which to write and it would be impossible to cite every article, book, or piece of scientific data that I read on the subject prior to the final submission. I write with the sole purpose of provoking meaningful thought and dialogue about issues that could affect us as a society and a democracy. Whether or not we legalize marijuana in NYS for medicinal or recreational purposes, there needs to be a clear understanding of what is at stake; and, there needs to be transparency. We cannot and should not hide behind the shield of “legalizing for the good of the sick” when it is really all about the money. Regardless of the affects of alcohol, tobacco, opiates or any other drug, this commentary was written for the sole purpose of introducing some of the go

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rumblefish

Jan-17-14 11:57 AM

while we respect the opinions of others, we are not surprised by the stereo typing by some, as always there is a "little good in every bad, and little bad in every good"

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MikeDavis

Jan-17-14 10:10 AM

joew you are positive legalizing this is a horrible decision. Can you share your reasoning?

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CadeFoster

Jan-17-14 9:57 AM

No Stiener you clearly degraded the women for standing up for themselves quite lying again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Steiner

Jan-17-14 9:50 AM

cade, i said that gabrzak deserves his day in court. Not an emotional trial in the press. this is a throwback to th middle ages when they burned people for disagreeing with the govt . else, why do we have courts for ? for the right wing only ?

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CadeFoster

Jan-17-14 9:24 AM

Now that will make you sick !

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CadeFoster

Jan-17-14 9:22 AM

Joew - if you know the system you would know this answer. If a person has a presciption they can't use the EBT card to buy scrips. However if the pharmacist tells the patient at check out the co- pay is $5.00. Guess what happens then ??????????????? The patient tells the pharmacist I cant afford that, and guess what happens then ......... they get it without the co-pay. Dont believe that ? hang around the pharmacy in wal-mart and see it first hand while they are pushing 3 carts of free food.

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joew

Jan-17-14 8:21 AM

Judeye do you think people should be able to use their EBT cards to buy the junk? Just asking?

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CadeFoster

Jan-16-14 12:57 PM

you never answered Stiener, how your 100% support for Gybrazak going, dont like it when women stand up for them selfs against an idiot do you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CadeFoster

Jan-16-14 12:55 PM

Yep , Stiener all the drug addicts are out in their looking for plants or are they looking to steal prescription drugs.

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PR24601

Jan-16-14 9:52 AM

For economic and crime reasons alone, pot should be decriminalized. Crime will go down when you eliminate the "black market" aspect - drug lords and street dealers.

Americans are going to find out some things in these states that are legalizing pot. Number 1 is that not everyone is going to turn into a pothead. It's not like pot becomes legal today and tomorrow every citizen is high. Not going to happen. And use will diminish as the novelty wears off and people realize it's still pretty expensive even though it's legal.

Number 2 is that with proper legalization, people will start to grow their own. You can make your own wine, craft your own beer, and if allowed, people will grow their own pot. No middle man, no walking into a "pot store", no taxes.

But overall I think it's the single most important step we can take in eliminating crime associated with pot. There will still be crime in DK - coke is a huge problem, but coke also has fewer users.

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PhilJulian

Jan-16-14 9:16 AM

It seems to me that alcohol is a much bigger problem than marijuana so why is alcohol not illegal? To deny marijuana for treatment of medical conditions is crazy. But then, what would our cops do all day if drugs were made legal?

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Marcia

Jan-16-14 8:52 AM

To say that marijuana is a gateway drug is ludicrous. Think of all the people throughout our country who have smoked pot (including out last three presidents) which shows that you you can be a hard working productive member of society and still smoke pot. It is obvious that making it illegal has not stopped it's use, just cost us billions in incarcerating people for it. This is the same mindset that thought that alcohol should be illegal, and what did that give us? Organized crime flourished because of prohibition, and prohibition did the same for marijuana. Legalizing will make our streets safer.

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judeye

Jan-16-14 8:20 AM

"Colorado projects $578.1 million a year in combined wholesale and retail marijuana sales to yield $67 million in tax revenue, according to the Legislative Council of the Colorado General Assembly."

and we are not legalizing why?

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judeye

Jan-16-14 8:16 AM

American...you might want to look up some history...which includes at times racism

"The Harrison Act of 1914, which 'taxed' cocaine and opiates, was the federal government's first attempt to criminalize and outlaw narcotic drugs like opium, ******, morphine, and cocaine. Proponents of the Harrison Act played on populace fears of “drug-crazed, sex-mad *****es” and made reference to *****es under the influence of drugs murdering whites, degenerate Mexicans smoking marijuana, and Chinamen seducing white women with drugs. Medical doctors testified that drugs made blacks uncontrollable, gave them superhuman powers, and caused them to rebel against white authority. One medical doctor brazenly testified at a congressional hearing that: "most of the attacks upon the white women of the South are the direct result of a cocaine-crazed ***** brain." — Dr. Christopher Koch, State Pharmacy Board of Pennsylvania."

Read some history of illegal drugs in our Country.

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Iconoclast

Jan-16-14 6:32 AM

just because you dont agree with her views doesnt make HER ignorant. Hummm... Ann... Her article is filled with untruths and misinformation. So either she is ignorant or deliberate spewing BS. I prefer to believe the former.

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