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County Home: Union fails with workers

February 10, 2014

In a bold move, 171 workers of the Chautauqua County Home have publicly announced through a petition they are willing to accept concessions on wages and benefits....

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Psychofux

Feb-15-14 5:06 AM

You would think that Steiner would name a couple of cities as "Proof, many cities are filing for bankruptcy on account of lavish public employee benefits." But he's an idiot. I'm sure that his definition of many is probably "Two"!

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rumblefish

Feb-12-14 10:03 PM

entitlement the theme song of the "BABY BOOMER'S OFFSPRING" and THEIR OFFSPRING and generations to come, like a snow ball running down hill till the day it finally hits that one tree in it's path, hope is that tree is bigger than snow ball or all is lost

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rumblefish

Feb-12-14 9:55 PM

as always when union's workers don't get their way then the "conspiracy theory" is thrown into the mix, for the record it was Col. Mustard with a candle stick in the library ..

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rumblefish

Feb-12-14 9:46 PM

there are also commenters who should not be allowed to type, Steiner and CadeFoster pay attention

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snottynosepunk

Feb-12-14 8:41 PM

RIP thee corrupto commie union

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CadeFoster

Feb-12-14 4:53 PM

Vote for Pedro !

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CadeFoster

Feb-12-14 4:52 PM

At least Rand Paul is creating Jobs, for the lawyers on both sides of the goverment, raising the debt ceiling by suing the goverment at tax payers expence, and pulling manpower from more needed agendas. great job rand paul, spend more time on the issues that are a waste of tax payer money, what a great president he would make...not.

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Captain

Feb-11-14 8:05 PM

I have no doubt that MANY lies were told, and that deliberate steps were taken to make sure the CCH lost money in order to gain support from the CCLeg and public to sell the home.

If it could be proven that the home could easily eliminate most, if not all, "daily losses," even turn a modest profit, I'm afraid the CCLeg has its own strictly political reasons why it wants out of the nursing home business, and the public is just too obsessed with busting the union, consequences be damned.

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NormanC

Feb-11-14 6:19 PM

FredoniaFred...Did George B,show you the e-mail that was sent to him and all the other Legislators,from the Director of Medical Records at the CCH,stating that there is no Electronic Record keeping in progress ??..The program was started,piece meal,at best,but was halted...And remains halted..Horrigan claims he has seen no cost savings from this program..How can there be any savings if this program doesnt exist??..This is what the CGR said was necessary!!...Im the Idiot trouble making liar??..I don think so...The people will know the truth,Im not done yet!!..

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NormanC

Feb-11-14 5:55 PM

FredoniaFred...

County Faces VestraCare Decision Legislators Gather Information Prior To Feb. 26 Home Vote

February 9, 2014

Save | Comments (10) | Post a comment | Wednesday night’s information session in Mayville on the potential sale of the Chautauqua County Home to VestraCare answered many newly seated legislators’ question....

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sort: oldest | newest Comments (10) Orangeman Feb-10-14 11:54 AM Agree | Disagree The county should sell the County home and then reinvest the money in Cockaigne to rebuild the lodge and get the ski resort up and running again.

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NormanC

Feb-11-14 5:52 PM

FredoniaFred...Sorry Freddie,just relaying information I was told..Call the CCH,ask for Rita...

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FredoniaFred

Feb-11-14 1:40 PM

Norman you are a trouble making idiot. A female legislator did not make the statement that you attributed to her and there was nothing in the Post-Jounal about taking CCH proceeds to re-open Cockaigne. Do you lay awake nights thinking up these lies???

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NormanC

Feb-11-14 11:53 AM

"There are men in government who should not be allowed to play with matches."

Will Rogers

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DKexpat

Feb-11-14 10:50 AM

Here’s where I agree with Steiner – entitlement is taking over America.

When you add an aging population + fewer people in the workplace + entitlements, over the next 10 years all of the federal govmt’s spending growth will go to Social Security and health care (whether Medicare, Medicaid or the ACA).

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, by 2024 only 7.4% - just 7.4% - of GDP will be left for everything else, from defense to medical research to infrastructure rebuilding. Both liberals and conservatives are complicit in this, kicking the can further and further down the road because they’re afraid to make hard choices, afraid that might affect their reelection campaigns.

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Steiner

Feb-11-14 9:34 AM

dk correctly points out out those who vote for a living and those who work for a living with his schoolteacher union post. that this would become widespread in america was remarked way back in the 30s under FDR ! of course the union types like christopher dispute this. they have to as they milk the public trough dry as a bone. Proof, many cities are filing for bankruptcy on account of lavish public employee benefits. the unions have to do anything possible to cover this up. union power is destroying america, i posted how they noticed they were losing ,members in the 20s. yet christopher persists in his unions built america, they did not. thats why paul is always in support of govt programs. he wants the public money very badly. Like the erie county pubic employees who say erie county works when the govt employee works.a total reversal of history. but thats a liberal. just issue blatant denials. it works !

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DKexpat

Feb-10-14 10:44 PM

Follow-up: When I moved here, I learned how to conjugate "ya all."

You = 1 Y'all = 2-4 All y'all = 5+

:-)

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DKexpat

Feb-10-14 10:14 PM

concerned, as far as I know, counties in my area of VA do not own nursing homes. (Have never seen/heard of one.)

Must be a "way back" socio-political thing like the fact that most school districts are county-wide districts and that so much of counties is unincorporated (not townships like NYS), also with consolidated services.

We have, no kidding, HOAs so large they have their own zip codes - no municipality - with consolidated county services.

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concerned

Feb-10-14 9:33 PM

Dkexpat I'm curious you usually talk about how things are handled in your area but on the subject of nursing or retirement homes you do not. How is it done in your area are they all privately owned or government run? How are they doing? I am honestly curious how ya all handle it.

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joew

Feb-10-14 7:47 PM

Oh please Norman,just some nut from the south. We have one or two up in these parts as well,names starting with the letter D!

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Captain

Feb-10-14 7:38 PM

I'm afraid that comment is indicative of the kind of people we're dealing with on this matter (both elected officials and the general public).

The inevitable sale of the CCH, and the direction this county has been going in for so long is very disheartening. Is there any wonder why voter turnout is so pathetic?

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NormanC

Feb-10-14 6:12 PM

Took this comment from the Post Journal..Is this how the South County residents Think??..Disgusting!!..

"The county should sell the County home and then reinvest the money in Cockaigne to rebuild the lodge and get the ski resort up and running again.."

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Captain

Feb-10-14 5:19 PM

My previous post citing George Borrello's response to Edward Farbenblum's question shows a serious lack of financial sense among him and his fellow CCLeg members.

As Mr Farbenblum properly noted, by refusing IGT funds, the county still had to fund the full expenses, which I presume were taken from reserves, therefore, this decision cost us MORE money.

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Captain

Feb-10-14 5:19 PM

At Wednesday night's meeting, Edward Farbenblum, executive vice president of VestraCare, asked legislators why they did not apply for the federal funding.

"If we had funded the IGT, the county tax rate would have gone up," said George Borrello, R-Irving.

"Yes, but if you don't fund the IGT, you're still funding a loss," Farbenblum said of the County Home's deficits.

Borrello responded by explaining that the county tax rate went down because of the fact that the county did not have to match the federal amount.

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caregiver

Feb-10-14 5:09 PM

Fredoniafred, NYS DOES NOT keep the County Home from expanding it's services. There is no "law" that says they can't. Now, what it does state is that a facility cannot apply for IGT funds if they offer expanded services. So, after all the money spent to update CCH and drill a gas well only to not receive the IGT funds this year why was this "law" never looked into? If, as you claim, VestraCare will do all these things then why can't the County Home? Obviously the employees have ALWAYS been willing to negotiate concessions and they have ALWAYS been able to expand services so why was none of this looked into? Why did many of the Leg's and the past and current County Exec. hide behind a "law" that doesn't exist?!!!!

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Captain

Feb-10-14 4:50 PM

Let me just add that an efficiently operated facility doesn't necessarily mean profitable. As I said yesterday, if all public services were self-sustaining and earned profits, we wouldn't have to pay property taxes.

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