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Specific savings of sheriff’s office contract unknown

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March 5, 2014

Last week’s County Legislature approval of a new sheriff’s contract has left questions unanswered....

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tjefson

Mar-06-14 11:49 AM

I will connect the dots for Christopher. Christopher says, "I guess you should have stayed where you were". Not exactly a welcoming comment. Our dear leader, Cuomo, also said certain people have no place in this state. Like I said before, the Dems are extremely open minded, as long as you agree with them.

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Christopher

Mar-06-14 8:52 AM

How did the right to life get into this issue!!? You really are off the deep end.

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tjefson

Mar-06-14 8:18 AM

Christopher, are you reiterating what Cuomo said, "Right to life people have no place in NY state". Such open minded people, kind of like dealing with devil.

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tjefson

Mar-06-14 8:09 AM

Christopher, Cuomo is going to bat for the charter schools in NY City. Cuomo said, "NY state pays more on public education than any state and ranks 30th. The people of NY deserve better." Wow, he through the teachers union right under the bus. Even the top Dems are realizing they are running out of other peoples money. LOL!

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Christopher

Mar-06-14 8:05 AM

I guess you should have stayed where you were.

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tjefson

Mar-06-14 7:23 AM

"Public Employees are now forcibly taking from you"? You got it! You need to put on the defrosters or get out of the fog. The legal plunder has increased annually since I moved here in 1998. Tell me, why has the teachers union been allowed to increase the percentage of the contribution to their pension plan from appox. 12% of their salary to 18% since the Great Recession. No one bailed me out. In the process of taking care of these peoples raises, health insurance and pensions my own retirement looks bleak. Get real Christopher, this is nothing short of legalized public extortion. If I don't pay my taxes, your regime tries to take my home.

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Christopher

Mar-06-14 6:56 AM

Oh, Public Employees are now forcibly taking from you? Really? At gun point? You sound like you've moved a lot, some bad choices others are being blamed for? What would you be saying if you'd gotten that civil service job you applied for? You think there's no corruption in private industry, corruption you pay for on construction jobs, Military supplies, etc., etc.? Boy, do YOU need to get out a little more. Most of your federal legislature has been purchased by private industry, that's ok with you? I am not saying changes shouldn't be made, I am not saying elected officials need to make a better effort at controlling costs, I've said for YEARS that overtime should not be included in public pensions (the absolute worst offenders for this are Police and Firemen, and huge percentages of public employees don't even get overtime). Insurance costs are an issue but NONE of the elected Republicans, ZERO, will do one thing about it or try. You're really getting a bit shrill there, Tjef.

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tjefson

Mar-06-14 6:13 AM

Christopher, why do you defend people who take from people who have less and give to people who have more. The situation has grown so bad to where we see the takers with a surplus and the payers drowning in debt. You see nothing wrong with this? These public people are my enemy. If I did what they do, I would be thrown in jail.

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tjefson

Mar-06-14 6:07 AM

*******blogs.app****/politicspatrol/2012/08/09/camden-mayor-tells-union-leaders-to-get-back-to-work/

Christopher, bottom line, the taxpayers in Camden are saving between 14-16 million per year by getting rid of the corrupt phonies who bilked the taxpayers out of their hard earned money for years. I applaud Mayor Redd, she is someone who cares.

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Christopher

Mar-06-14 4:02 AM

Camden is a PRIVATE police force? Read more. And Camden, NJ makes all of NYS look fiscally responsible, as well as being a combat zone. There is no comparison that can reasonably be made. Camden's police force, by the way, has been replaced by a county police force.

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tjefson

Mar-05-14 9:54 PM

Christopher, what is sad is you think these are fictional stories. The public employees have become the new privileged class. To deny this is to deny reality. Why in the world would you be scared of a private sector police force. In Camden the police has been contracted out the crime rate has plunged. These union phonies are only in it for the money.

***********nytimes****/2012/09/29/nyregion/overrun-by-crime-camden-trades-in-its-police-force.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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Christopher

Mar-05-14 9:01 PM

By the way, there are way too many rogue cops in this country as public employees, with lots of checks and balances. A privately run police force scares the H E L L out of me. Consolidating police forces is another matter.

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Christopher

Mar-05-14 8:59 PM

tjefson, you have managed to use just about every right wing stereotyped story I've ever herd going back to Ronald Reagan's fictional Cadillac driving welfare mother. You have done that so well, that I do believe you're full of...shall we say, BEANS. Too many stories for one person, and ALL supporting the right wing agenda.

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tjefson

Mar-05-14 6:55 PM

Darkstar, my brother is a construction contractor in another area of NY state. With the weather being what it has been and the economy being in the tank, he has never been in worse shape. He swallowed his pride and went to see if he could get some help paying his gas bill. They said, no, you made to much money last year. Here is someone who has paid into the system all his life and asks for some help in a time of need and they slam the door in his face. His refrigerator is practically bare. Fortunately, he shot 4 deer and a bear this past year so he has lots of meat. Yet, they will educate prisoners and give money and food stamps to someone who does nothing. What kind of a country are we living in?

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commentor

Mar-05-14 5:18 PM

All the double talk means there was NO savings.

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DKexpat

Mar-05-14 5:13 PM

At least now there’ll be some well-paid deputies to protect that “new private business” on Temple Road.

(Proponents of selling the CHH – still think you’ll see your taxes go down?)

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DarkStar

Mar-05-14 4:13 PM

tjefson,

Very much so!

I know what you mean, I've never seen anywhere were the population has such a sense of entitlement as we have here in Chautauqua County, we have a significant number leeching off the taxpayers and another group who feels that altruism means taking from one person to give it to another, and finally a third group which uses their political clout the vote themselves raise and more benefits again on the back of the taxpayer.

Meanwhile the ones called greedy are those who don't want wallets raped and would like to actually be able to use their earning to take care of their own family.

The left demonizes health insurance companies yet I pay less for insurance then I do in income taxes, and of course that doesn't even take into account the property, school and sales taxes the government takes under threat of force. Some day I wonder why we even bother.

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DarkStar

Mar-05-14 4:04 PM

Niebelj,

No problem my friend, even I've been known to make a mistake now and then.

Well at least my wife claims I make mistakes, but I'm not sure I believe her. :D

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tjefson

Mar-05-14 4:04 PM

Darkstar, are you getting tired of making do with the crumbs? I took out a home equity loan a few years back to make some improvements on my home. I was rewarded by a new appraisal of my property so I can pay more taxes. These people have no shame whatsoever. I never seen such narcissitic people and I have lived in quite a few different areas during my lifetime.

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Niebelj

Mar-05-14 3:47 PM

DarkStar whoops sorry misread that completely!

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DarkStar

Mar-05-14 3:25 PM

".....I think that the contract works out to be more like @$800 per year..."

The story itself states that the cost will be $175,000 per year, and that it covers 56 employees, which comes out to $3,125 per employee.

As for them raping taxpayers, as I've said time after time, the government workers union is by far the biggest fish in the area when it comes to political power and they use that power against the taxpayer to basically vote themselves in ever increasing pay and benefits every election and the taxpayer is left swinging in the wind.

Yes they pay taxes to, but it would be a lot easier paying taxes if you knew it allowed you to draw larger and larger paychecks and have obscene benefits.

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Niebelj

Mar-05-14 3:17 PM

Darkstar..I think that the contract works out to be more like @$800 per year. As to your other point I don't think the county employees are " raping the taxpayers". County jobs are sought after because for the most part it is the only game in town especially in the north county. You can't criticize people for taking jobs that provide for themselves and their families and for taking the benefits offered. Those employees are taxpayers too and why shouldn't they take advantage of what they are investing in with their tax dollars. If you really want to point fingers it should be at administrations that continue to spend more dollars than they have, are not accountable for the expenditures and expect all of us to finance their failed efforts. I certainly have no answer to how we change things but I do know one thing it can not change by hating our neighbors.

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monybagz

Mar-05-14 3:13 PM

tell me again why we're the 6th or 9th highest taxed county in the nation!

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DarkStar

Mar-05-14 2:29 PM

Well I think a contract which burdens taxpayers for more then $3,100 per employee per year is insane.

I don't care if it's raises of more for healthcare but expecting the taxpayer to fund these increases, especially as the area goes down the drain is criminal.

So which group of County employees are next up to the trough to rape the taxpayers?

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Niebelj

Mar-05-14 2:18 PM

PhilJulian with all due respect interesting idea that will never happen. You can't even get people to share snowplows much less give up their local law enforcement.

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