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Forestville: Past decisions haunt present

March 31, 2014

Disappointing? Yes, to be sure. Troubling? Most definitely, especially for those on a limited income. Unexpected? Absolutely not....

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mattdillon

Apr-01-14 10:42 AM

tjefson it's nice to know you have a radar unit in your vehicle so you know how fast people are driving. But I will be more than happy to meet you so I can show you what I drive. Just name the place and time and I will buy you a coffee.

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tjefson

Mar-31-14 4:28 PM

Christopher, now you are confusing me with BHO. BHO is the one who said we all need to eat our peas. To me, it looks like you don't want to eat your peas. All you want is dessert. I think at one time you had a good handle on things till you got mixed up with public union crowd and they changed you. I say this because most people in this arena are walking zombies where at least you respond. I think deep down you know what you are doing is wrong, but you feel you have no way out. I will pray for you.

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tjefson

Mar-31-14 3:57 PM

mattdillon, were you cruising in the patrol car or van. Has the daily quota of tickets been filled? Do all license plates now have the chip that brings everything up on the owner of the vehicle? Do the license plates have a special chip for public employees so they will never get pulled over for speeding? Something is going on because a state trooper going the other way who must have seen a new SUV pass me going 90-100 MPH and the state trooper never bothered with him. Yet I don't dare go over the speed limit in fear of getting a ticket.

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Christopher

Mar-31-14 3:52 PM

tjefson, what do you do when not playing tag with your Steiner self? YOU say nepotism is RAMPANT throughout ALL public employment, which I disagreed with. I mentioned ONE township where it happened quite a bit, not exactly a contradiction, other than in your pea brain. Or Steiner's, I forget who I'm talking to sometimes.

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Christopher

Mar-31-14 3:49 PM

Quite obviously, "openmind is a huge misnomer, and you are anything but. You're either Ms. Tampio herself or a political supporter. Try a real name, MAYBE you'll have some credibility. I can just see what you'd say if any public employee gave themselves a 40% raise. Her committee appointments just MIGHT be construed as party politics, just like her current appointment after she lost an election. I noticed your obvious disdain for her successor, again, not exactly objective. Anyway, not picking just on Ms. Tampio, but am totally against the concept and need for Town governments. They provide nothing that the county couldn't provide more cheaply. Hanover is no exception. Most places with Towns are part of the original colonies and used an old English format for their governance. All those low taxed states the right wing likes to tout don't have them. End of story Ms. Tampio.

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tjefson

Mar-31-14 3:43 PM

Commentor, the ones who will suffer the most are the ones who are the most vulnerable. The elderly person depending on social security to live is in no position to handle any increase in taxes. I know of situations where the owners of small business have stepped up and paid back taxes and utilities for the elderly so they did not lose their homes. These philanthropic gestures go unnoticed because those who do this choose to remain annonymous in their giving. These are the kind of people who have had it with this area and are relocating because the burden has become to heavy to continue to carry. The leaders of this area eventually will reap what they sow.

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mattdillon

Mar-31-14 3:33 PM

tjefson I was on a cruise and just got back. Were you talking? Cause you normally just babble and nothing intelligent is ever said.

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commentor

Mar-31-14 2:16 PM

Just more examples of people doing jobs they have no knowledge of or business doing. I don't know the solution for this but there should be some standards and qualifications for govt jobs and board jobs. Mayville has many unqualified leaders and legislators running the show. As for nepotism sure is rampant in Mayville. The good ole boy mentality also in play there. As for the North county they are the poor relative.

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OpenMind

Mar-31-14 1:51 PM

Christopher - if you know so much about what happens in Hanover perhaps you could remember that under Supervisor Tampio's leadership town paid health insurance was eliminated for "part-time" elected officials a long time ago. She never took health insurance prior to or after that since she was covered under her husband's plan at his place of work. Perhaps you could also understand why she logged so many hours if you saw her record of grant applications and administration and the $5 million + water project that she oversaw as well as the leadership positions in regional organizations. The list could go on and on - but of course you already have all the answers - or you think you do.

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tjefson

Mar-31-14 1:16 PM

Christopher, before you implied Nepotism didn't exist in the public sector. I was labelled a crackpot by you when I said people were hired more on favortism and nepotism. That is problem with liberal progressives. They can't keep up with all the lies and eventually their stories conflict with one another and the scandal unravels. These pro-government types are all the same, hidden agendas, cold heartedness and dishonesty. These wolves dressed as sheep are destroying the great country I once knew.

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Christopher

Mar-31-14 1:00 PM

Openmind, BS and excuses. You can't change that fact and much other nonsense that went on in Hanover, and YES, I know more than a few people who live there. Ok, so she "only" got a 40 odd % pay raise. A LOT of money for a part time job, and Insurance was included as well, wasn't it? Not bad, not bad at all. And, why was she there so much? Need or want? BS. Nepotism was also a HUGE issue there, and might still be for all I know.

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tjefson

Mar-31-14 12:57 PM

Where is Alfalfa & Mattdillon? Probably on a cruise somewhere getting their feet rubbed, the first of their 6 vacations they will take this year. They will read "Tough Times" when they return.

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tjefson

Mar-31-14 12:48 PM

Christopher, the state of Ohio is stuck in this same kind of time warped government. The public unions thrive on this sort of taxation. They will nickel and dime you to death. Then the penalties and interest are more than the tax as the hoops to jump through become increasingly difficult to navigate. Local licenses, permits, certificates and registrations. You name it, they got it.

Steiner, the new public union motto: "Ask not what I can do for my country, ask what my country can do for me".

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eastwood

Mar-31-14 12:30 PM

have the top 1% in Forestville pay....!

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localresident

Mar-31-14 10:39 AM

OpenMind, Christopher making up things? Couldn't be. No wait, it is, just like his claim about townships not existing outside of NYS.

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Steiner

Mar-31-14 9:42 AM

The liberals prayers in forestville have been answered ! yes ! raise our taxes for liberal largess so we can enter the liberal utopia, the promised land of govt projects and public employees!we all know the govt did all, knows all, invented all. without our govt we would be nothing. expect the good times to roll in . Abundant living thru taxation is just around the corner. we need taxes as all our private jobs are disappearing. taxes are the answer,right liberals ?

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OpenMind

Mar-31-14 9:23 AM

Christopher - please attempt to get your facts straight. Hanover Supervisor did not double her pay. The Town Board voted to raise her pay from $12,500 to $17,500. If you check the math her pay was not doubled. The increase was due to the documented facts that she spent about 30 hours per week doing her job. That equates to a little over $11/hour. Compare that to the present supervisor who probably barely logs 5 hours per week but he still receives $17,500 per year - you would have thought he would have reduced his pay according to the hours he actually spends on conducting town business.

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Christopher

Mar-31-14 7:40 AM

I might add that Fredonia's issues are similar. All equipment sooner or later gets old and unusable. All infrastructure does as well. (applies to Dunkirk too)By ignoring needs to brag about no tax raises can be very short sighted. It has been and is now. Fredonia put themselves into this situation by ignoring facts brought to their attention, by denying reality. Now, 2 things have combined for a perfect storm of disaster, huge needs and loss of income, all due to extremely short sighted practices by a long string of politicians. The fix? Loss of services. Fredonia can probably figure that leaf pickup is done, perhaps street cleaning, minimal street plowing in winter and forget sidewalks, and road repair will be patches applied more often than not. Enjoy!

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Christopher

Mar-31-14 7:33 AM

Forestville is clearly dying of self inflicted wounds. However the fix suggested is just as stupid. Why is a Town government better than a COUNTY government? Travel out of NYS, and nobody HAS Town governments. Towns, or Townships, are anachronisms for horse and buggy days when it took days, or an entire day, to reach the County Seat when needed. Towns haven't been exactly noted for cost cutting either, like when not so long ago Hanover's elected Supervisor doubled her pay. Take a long look at various Towns and employment practices before jumping on THAT horse. Towns haven't attracted the microscopes that various smaller entities have. They should before advocating their takeovers of larger territories.

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