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Proposed 445 percent tax hike draws crowd

April 9, 2014

FORESTVILLE — Shocked residents crowded into the Forestville Village Board meeting to question the proposed 445 percent increase to the tax rate....

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Captain

Apr-10-14 9:34 AM

commentor: I try my best to refrain from making personal remarks against other posters (although there's one in particular that I find nearly impossible to do), but your regular slams have got the best of me. You criticize people for voicing their opinion by calling them "know-it-alls", yet don't hesitate to offer yours. You must know what hypocrite means? These threads are opinions, and you have every right to disagree, but please try to stick to the topic.

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judeye

Apr-10-14 7:24 AM

tjefson..we do have a taxpayer's union. It is called VOTING.

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localresident

Apr-10-14 1:51 AM

Wasn't this building that *had* to be torn down the same one that someone wanted to make into a historical building? I think they were also raising funds to do the work on their own too. I remember reading about it in the paper, and thinking that the cold shoulder they got was some sort of petty grudge or something similarly stupid. Par for the course.

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localresident

Apr-10-14 1:47 AM

(translation of Commentor's comments): "I fully accept any and all explanations (or lack thereof), no matter how substantial or flimsy, as valid truths for actions they take/have taken. For me to consider that my legislators are wrong is evil and entirely incorrect, no matter the situation. I know this because they told me that they are looking out for my interests."

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MatthiasJ

Apr-09-14 10:59 PM

village of one sq. mi. in area and about 2600 people at last count. I don't think that the board should be able to vote for a tax cap override because that gives them license to do as they please. It shouldn't be easy to override the cap. It gives them the out of just raising taxes instead of making hard choices and actually laying people off. Private business operates that way and so should govt. They don't want what is best for the taxpayers or all these little villages would dissolve. Silver Creek claims to have saved $250,000 getting rid of the PD that was supposed to lower taxes and it should have done so significantly but it didn't. The debt just keeps piling up.

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MatthiasJ

Apr-09-14 10:22 PM

Let's share the blame shall we the previous mayor worked hard to try to get something going but the same 30 or 40 who seem to run the village and speak for everyone, shot it down. You want to blame someone for the ridiculous tax increase, blame them. If they were in the process of dissolution there might be a different answer. Perrysburg dissolved several years ago and became a part of the town. They are still on the map as Perrysburg and still have their post office and seem to be doing nicely. The problem is that there are too many layers of govt. in the whole county. Silver Creek gets double taxed on a lot of services because we have to pay a town tax and that covers all the people and depts. in the Town Hall.. code enforcement, court clerks, justices, town clerk and assistants, treasurer, assessor's office. The only thing it doesn't go for is the town's contract with the sheriff. SC Silver Creek has duplication of all of the above services except the assessor and the sheriff for a

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commentor

Apr-09-14 8:19 PM

Amazing how all the answer's for all the towns and villages are known by some of the know it all's here. Do you sit on all of these boards. Are you privy to all of the books. Must be something to be so smart. I think you are all full of crap. You are all getting like steinernut.

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Captain

Apr-09-14 5:25 PM

Thanks Paul, I don't need any more people looking for me ;) If I need JW, I know where to find him.

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localresident

Apr-09-14 2:51 PM

Yeah, the village board and then-attorney from 4 years ago needs to answer a few questions, including why it cost a quarter mil to tear down an old wooden structure...among other things. Isn't this 445% raise for one year only though? I think so, then things *should* go back to normal. But, as Rahm Emannuel said "never let a crisis go to waste".

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Christopher

Apr-09-14 2:35 PM

Beware, Captain, Jim White is trying to track you down!! Don't worry, I threw him off the scent, I told him you were Steiner!! LOL!

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Christopher

Apr-09-14 12:59 PM

I'm not sure why criminal charges haven't been filed on at least SOME past issues in Forestville. But at this point, in a village of 700 people, it won't take a whole lot of people losing their homes to drive home values down, and I'd expect some people will lose their homes. Then, assuming the Village "goes under", they'll be a part of the Town of Hanover, and if anyone thinks that'll be an improvement, they'd better study a little bit more. Just like with Fredonia and the Town of Pomfret. It's easy to throw bricks when you're not responsible for perhaps 40% of the same work load. Anyone think the Town will provide the SAME services for less money? If so, I have a few acres of swampland and a large bridge for sale. Call me.

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OpenMind

Apr-09-14 12:05 PM

A correction - after looking at the "revenues" for 2013 for fire protection contracts with Foresville on "Open Book New York" their revenue was only $65,587. Not much left after taking out the $58,132.

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OpenMind

Apr-09-14 11:57 AM

I wonder why the village doesn't have the money to replace the fire hall roof. I believe the village receives money from fire contracts with the Town of Hanover, the Town of Villenova and the Town of Arkwright that is probably over $80,000 a year. Last year the village only expended $58,132 for fire protection according to the Open Book New York web site. Where does that extra unexpended money go?

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Christopher

Apr-09-14 11:05 AM

When your community makes the 97 Rock morning show, you're in trouble. Fredonia might be next. Fredonia has so much old and decrepit equipment, among other issues, I'd give them maybe 2 years and they'll be in Forestville's shoes.

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DeeDee

Apr-09-14 10:35 AM

You are correct about the cap. However, The Board voted for a cap override!

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Captain

Apr-09-14 8:58 AM

I agree, DKex, there's plenty of people to blame, but NOT village employees. The entire village board who were in office during this time, along with former village atty Michael Bolender, are at the top of the list. As I've said before, what I find most odd about this whole mess is that NYS Comptroller Tom DiNapoli didn't uncover this unpaid debt during his most recent audit, well after the demo work was complete. I'd start w/him looking for answers. It won't change what's owed, but the truth needs to be disclosed.

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tjefson

Apr-09-14 8:37 AM

DKexpat, your right. I should not use this case to argue another point. I am just so disgusted with everthing. I am sorry.

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commentor

Apr-09-14 8:34 AM

Isn't the amount of ignorance and stupidity just amazing. No wonder this entire County is going down the drain with brain power like this.

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tjefson

Apr-09-14 8:26 AM

DKexpat, this is one large smoke screen that takes focus off the real problems, runaway government spending. Most of it did run to far, it can be found locally here by the thieves employed by the government. Stop gouging the working people. We want a life too.

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DKexpat

Apr-09-14 8:02 AM

In this case, I don't think all the poor decisions - along with all that "wonderful" legal advise costing hundreds of thousands of dollars - were the fault of hourly village employees.

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tjefson

Apr-09-14 6:44 AM

This is why the taxpayers need a union, like Mr. Julian suggested. A taxpayers union could counter the public unions that continue to confiscate our hard earned money. These public employees need to be forced to pay their fair share for health insurance and be forced into a 401K plan where they are responsible for their own retirement. People can't afford to pay the ridiculous taxes in this area. They want to take away our second amendment rights because they know the situation can turn very ugly at any time.

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Captain

Apr-09-14 5:38 AM

Stop with the "shock" journalism! There's absolutely NO WAY the village board can raise taxes by 445%, not even close! The NYS 2% cap law prohibits such a ridiculous assertion. The National Enquirer has more credibility than this newspaper.

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snottynosepunk

Apr-09-14 3:47 AM

who cares? cant stop the nazis.

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