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‘Alternatives’ missing mark

April 24, 2014

Boosters for the “alternative fuels” industry, which could not exist without hefty government subsidies and requirements for use of its products, make grandiose claims....

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tjefson

Apr-30-14 10:11 AM

Steiner, mattdillon thinks I need to go to Lake Shore Hosp for a mental examination. Anyone who exposes these frauds for who they are with facts is labeled a lunatic. The people in charge who have been empowered are destroying the country at warp speed. Are they devious or just plain dumb?

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DKexpat

Apr-29-14 9:35 PM

Um, einsteiner, I guess the steinmirage isn't quite ready for prime time, huh?

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DKexpat

Apr-29-14 9:33 PM

joew, you're right - the bottleneck in Cushing, OK keeps Midwest crude cheaper because there's not enough pipeline capacity to move it to the Gulf.

Good for Americans, but that'll go away once TransCanada can get it to the gulf coast where overseas buyers will pay more for it.

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judeye

Apr-29-14 5:58 PM

tjefson...oh please....

I feel for your wife. I have NO idea where she got such twisted views on the role of women, even under Jesus.

Very sad.

I think back to my grandmother who was born in 1883. She did not have the right to vote until she was almost 40! Seriously does your wife think that women should not vote? Does she think we do not have equal access to education, employment opportunities, pay?

I sometimes feel like I am going back in history...FAR BACK.

Is it not time we move FORWARD for ALL of us? Is equality too much to ask...no demand?

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tjefson

Apr-29-14 12:49 PM

Steiner, BHO places sanctions on Putin and Russia. How do the Russians respond? The ruble gains 1% and the Moscow trading index rises 1.5%. I bet they can't wait for some more sanctions. The Russian market gained because Obama took some of the worst sanctions off the table. Like you indicated, according to BHO Fossill Fuels are the enemy, not Putin. Gazprom was up almost 5%, somebody likes fossil fuels over there. I suppose Belarus will be Putin's next stop after he gains control of the Ukraine.

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Steiner

Apr-29-14 10:03 AM

joew, i have not seen his answers to your questions. i see a lot of mocks, but no answer.

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Steiner

Apr-29-14 10:01 AM

now we have not heard much from our gals. lets examine another govt program, er wrong. the telegraph. Its 1867, just under 6 million messages sent. by 1888, the number had swollen to 51 million. ah those govt programs. the gals in all this ? agitating for social justice.maybe it was looking for someone to do their hair and feet eh gals ? why did not you mimick the guys ? you missed out on fame and fortune. once again, private enterprise, all guys, no govt saved the day. the south was in ruins, democrats, just like our cities today ! those govt employees and programs eh liberals ? gals ?

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joew

Apr-29-14 9:41 AM

Actually Steiner DK and I were having a very civil discussion.

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Steiner

Apr-29-14 9:26 AM

more for stupid dk, he wants the secret. hmmm, its the same reason you cant buy nitric acid in the store. thats how they caught a jihadist in the midwest, he ordered fuming nitric acid for home use. there aint no home use except for nitrating and making explosives. this was even on Adam12, some kids were stealing nitric acid, the cops at that time were baffled. they would not be baffled now. the chemical supply house mgr then said the kids would steal sulfuric acid and sure enuf, that was stolen. the kids were caught. they were doing it for kicks. dk has NO idea what strong force is. he is stupid.

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Steiner

Apr-29-14 9:16 AM

hey tj, i think tesla ha an affair with Morgans daughter ,ann. tesla and morgan were at odds. if one reads the radio patent war that led to marconi being awarded radio supremacy, and then RCA being formed , one would read the comments by other scientists of the day, calling tesla, preternatural. dk of course would call it all a mirage. then the libs have the nerve to say the govt gave us these inventions,. that would have been a shock to tesla and his contemporaries. they were actually working for the govt. i actually have pictures of old time radio and electric labs. they are most intersting. some of this work, so radically different yet functional is almost , but not quite lost to science. another mirage for dk.

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Steiner

Apr-29-14 9:06 AM

hey joew, you cant expect dk to answer anything specific any more. look at the replies to my posts. all the science i posts and he calles them a mirage. He knows NOTHING of strategic thinking. The thinking methods i gave here made the multinationals huge. the only way the liberals can c o mpete is with a govt mandate, like the ethanol one. it should be obvious to all that many, but not all of the posters cannot think or even grasp who did what and how it was done. i have told dk, the method, provided examples of guys that used it and he answers mirage. no tech meeting i ever was in operated like dk replies. he would be fired in short order. even bayes theorem is used and we get a mirage. thast how life has sunk, to just denials, no facts.

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joew

Apr-29-14 8:09 AM

DK did you see my last post? It's buried wayyyyyyyyyy down there? Any truth to that?

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DKexpat

Apr-28-14 10:07 PM

So, einsteiner, I guess the steinmirage is just that . . .

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tjefson

Apr-28-14 8:57 PM

Steiner, I just found the movie and I have it on my ready to play list. It is called "The Secret of Nikola Tesla. It says that it is a cerebral, dark movie. It says it will shed light on his murky existence. I will be watching it, not tonight but in the near future.

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tjefson

Apr-28-14 8:35 PM

Steiner, I just did some quick research on Tesla. I had no idea the man was so gifted. There is a movie of him on Netflix that I am going to see if I can stream. I am certain the new electric car is named after him. Thomas Edison was more of a business man than inventor. He stole the invention of the light bulb from Tesla and marketed the idea. Did you know Tesla stood 6'6" and was very handsome, but he dated no women because it would interfere with his work. He took things that were not broke apart and improved on what was there to begin with. He was a remarkable man.

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 8:21 PM

so who would besides myself and tj understand these methods ? Hmm, Mr Westlund who writes articles now and then. Also Doc Robert Heichberger and the editor of this paper.if you are a liberal or a woman, foregt it. you live in la la land. hey liberal posters and dk. you still think the chemists running the big corporations are just plain greedy ? or did they make the products you buy and also profit them , the companies and chemists , did these same people employ just ordinary thought methods ? you posters must think that they did and do think like you unlearned liberals. i assure you, they do NOT think like you. thats why the corporate world got so big and obama hates them for it. stupid people will hate smart people.thats the libs history. look it up.

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 8:14 PM

special for dk,my so called rambling posts. i guess he never heard of bayes theorem. it is a neat little way to guess things out. the theory that would not die. one would make an intelligent guess in an apparent rambling fashion to the uninitiated, those not skilled in the art of thought, and then arrive at the proper conclusion. poor dk does not even know this trick.even christ knew of it when he said, repent . that just means change the tenor of your thoughts or ways. from the normal outside in to inside out. or as bayes theorem, intelligent mind guesses, like einstein riding the light waves. did i just describe dks methods and the libs here or what ? any wonder left why people are stupid ?

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 7:27 PM

hey tj, i tried and failed to get gals into chemicals. mostly they wanted to do social work. they also knew most of the stuff was carcinogenic and flammable. hades, the whole of the chem industry is like that at some point. so they bolted into social work. the fat, balding men, some disfigured, partially blind, bad hips and joints just kept plugging away at chemicals. of course the gals said there was an income gap. the gals did not do the same work.i am not a misogynt, but i sure do like facts. fact is gals dont do chemical work. i only saw 6 in 40 years. you could not get a gal in the labs for very long when they saw all the bottles of carcinogens on the shelfs. all flammable. the place was an IED waiting to go.

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 7:20 PM

more for dk, if i let out the secret, it would ne like having someone build another tesla earthquake machine. he did make earthquakes in NYC. face it dk, you have no conception of science. it is bad enuf we have IED info all over the place, like the boston wackos. plus, when one tampers with the strong force, one will meet strong force beings. this sounds crazy, but there are beings of pure heisenberg character. they can do very unusual things. mostly they dont openly, but on a few occassions, they will manifest themselves openly. the huna people in hawaii that max freedom long discovered had many stories , in modern times of the strong force beings. in humans it is the halo we see around the head in the old paintings. lets hear the mocks dk. i just posted an analogy. libs cant fathom them.

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 7:12 PM

so tj, what is the gals problem ? first they dont even know they have one. second, they dont examine the lives of great men. third it is a sort of double whammy. We can learn from the weather, a high pressure vs a low pressure. it is more than the air spinning CW or CCW. In a low, it is CCW, but the air is lifted up . In a high, the air is CW and the air is descending. the women have great difficulty thinking this thru . they are wired to be emotional and nurture driven. this is their problem . I believe it is insurmountable to most gals.else, why do all the activists and especially the young gals seem to want big govt ? it was SMALL govt that allowed everything to happen. even Obama falls for this. he has to , africa as a whole has been a lagging continent in spite of the huge success the west has. the africans like the muslims just never imitated success. I think they loved their heritage too much. Why would they is beyond me , but they do. just watch them !

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 7:04 PM

back to dk, he just cant understand why i wont give up the secret to energized gas. dk has NO idea of what strong force is in nature or its implications. it would be like giving the secret of nuclear weapons out but worse. for one needs refined nuclear fuel to build the weapon. with strong force one only needs a clever mind and industrial experience. dk CANNOT understand that so i get called names.I even named three great men of science and the method they used plus some neat memeory or info hints and still Dk mocks. No phD i ever knew treated me in such fashion. some knew i got my info during times of inactivty. i used to tell them i made contact with cosmic forces. they stared but knew i had some neat stuff. nearly all of my work, except the initial learning the ropes was done by the mind techniques i decribed that tesla, einstein and bohr used.when einstein was imagining he was riding the light waves, for sure he was running his memory flow backwards. look what he did.

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 6:56 PM

tj, tell your wife this. after the civil war, the southern belles complained that they actually had to comb their hair and wash their feet. they usually had the slaves do that. dont believe me ? see the patriots history of the US by schweikert and allen, p360. now minds like dk and judeye will NEVER undestand just what the rise of women in society did to america and the world. they pretty much ruined it. judey always posts she wants facts. i post facts, she ignores them. all activist women are seriously short on facts. all ya got to do is look up stuff. i ahve been in many meetings with the big boys and NEVER been called so many names as I have been called here. PS, the big boys wonder just what happened to the women, there aint many in chemicals. gals, why didnt you just imitate the guys ? they started everything !

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Steiner

Apr-28-14 6:49 PM

dk, you are turning into a judeye, unable to grasp things.many unrelated topics you say ? that is from my numerous tech meetings with the big boys. all relevant data is presented, no matter how of topic it may seem to those unskilled in the art, like you dk. if you are umable to understand it then for sure you lack mind power. you cannot grasp that the bigger picture is to put a knock out blow to OPEC. this can be fone by exporting North american oil and gas. So the midwesterners pay more for energy. Big deal. if we can get a knock out blow and we can, then the market will be much better off for it. that you cant grasp this is amazing to me. you seem unable to grasp strategy of destroying or harming the enemy. thats all steiner ever did in tech. steal or destroy the other guys business.

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tjefson

Apr-28-14 1:07 PM

Steiner, thanks for your comments on the Russian situation. My wife seems to think BHO is going to usher in the anti-christ. It would not surprise me. The world is completely out of balance. Never in the history of the world has a race to the bottom took place like is going on today. I am talking about gaining an advantage by devaluing currency. Everyone is trying to jump start their economies trying to use artificial stimulation. Everything is turning into a big illusion. When reality takes hold it will be to late.

I was telling my wife about your thoughts on women. She agrees that the role of women in the world is causing many of the problems we are facing today. She is a very religious person and sees a woman in roles that are defined in scripture. She said that Susan Anthony was the start of the demise for women and their natural role in the world we live. The nature of the man has always been to be the provider. We are all mixed up.

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DKexpat

Apr-28-14 11:55 AM

einsteiner, as usual you muddle threads with 15 off-topic ramblings in a single post.

The Keystone XL has nothing to do with ethanol and biofuels. It has a lot, however, to do with simply being a bad deal for millions of Americans in the Midwest - - paying 10-20 cents more/gallon for gas + all companies that will need to put money into operations rather than jobs.

But wait – you could fix everything! Why don’t you just bring your steinmirage to market – that “miraculous device” with its 25% fuel savings? You’d be a Nobel Laureate AND a gazillionaire!

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