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Ford had vision with cars and wages

May 15, 2014

Henry Ford had his flaw....

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Steiner

May-17-14 10:16 AM

hey phil, look up bretton woods. this was a big blunder by nixon when he abandoned it,what made for the post ww2 prosperity went out the window. it is like having no defintion to what a kilowatt hour is, or any unit of energy or even time. this is so the stupid govt loving liberals can steal blindly and at will from the citizens they rule over. it leads to specualtion in the precious metals as investors try and guess what the govt wil do with money instead of having a defined unit. all of this is bad and the libs call the corporations greedy. its a diversion to hide the real theft. our money to the dumb govt employee. obama adds salt to the wound when he said,you did not build that ! as if the govt or a liberal did. he disrespects us daily. if the situation was reversed , the libs would be rioting. crying racism greed etc. the libs are stealing america blind.

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Steiner

May-17-14 10:09 AM

more for the ignorant gals. you gals, renee and judey make it sound that all the technical advances used and needed by ford to do what he did, making low cost cars are and were irrelevant. the electricity used. the interchangeable parts. all of it is irrelevant to you libs.all of it was never no mind to you ! astounding lack of understanding here. how do we know this ? You say simply raise wages. one cannnot do that without some sort of sound reasoning to it. reasoning escapes you gals at every opportunity.how can you be so ignorant ? dont ya know what it takes to make things ? A lot of them all the time ?

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tjefson

May-17-14 8:32 AM

Mr. Julian, on another note, I read in the WSJ that NY is a state that allows the public pension plans to be funded with promissory notes. With GAAP Principles this would be illegal and insane. This is Government Accounting at its best. Start sending the pensioners promissory notes then they will have an interest the bond holders don't get shafted to pay for the pensions. Has there ever been a worse Comptroller than Tom DiNapoli? Unfortunately, the answer is a resounding yes. Where do they find these people?

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PhilJulian

May-16-14 7:55 PM

Judeye - if wages were not a major factor in the inflation of the 70,s then why did Nixon impose a complete freeze on wages?

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Steiner

May-16-14 7:03 PM

hewy liberals, was the suto industry one of those govt programs you liberals like to crow about ? Was it liberal largess? even when ford ws pouring gasoline down the carb of a motor strapped to a bench in his house ? cronig, judey , christopher, name that govt program that gave us auto. or even oil as without oil, cars are kaput. they had electric cars back then and they had the same drawback as today , fact for judey, limited range and power. judeye goofs it again. lets hear it libs ! green energy ? So since the inception of auto, power is been at the forefront and the stupid libs of today say mandate that battery powered car ? see why i call you ztupid liberals ? you are !

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Steiner

May-16-14 6:39 PM

hey tj and joew, it must be clear enough to anyone by now that libs like judeye and the rest that post here are utterly stupid people. fact after fact presented all mocked or ignored. no knowledge of economics or business. science facts accepted across industyr are said by judeye to be only relevant to me. she missed the fact that all of industry around the world and even govt labs use the very same science i mention. i offer proof with repeated examples. she ignores. even christopher says ford not a nice man, ignoring the history of his beloved democratic party. no other conclusion can be drawn. democrats are stupid people and insanely jealous of private enterprise and its inventors.

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kcw007

May-16-14 4:02 PM

If you read up on Cloward-Piven's plan of attack on the U.S., it's painfully clear that they're WELL on their way to success!

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joew

May-16-14 2:37 PM

TJ the "gimme" crowd like Judeye and a few others will never ever understand what that give away is doing to our country and those that toil each and every day.

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tjefson

May-16-14 11:51 AM

This disaster has been purposely manufactured by BHO who studied under Cloward-Piven at Columbia University. Cloward and Piven were husband and wife who taught a system on how to bring down the system by growing government. BHO has implemented their plan in the real world, the USA. BHO will continue to grow government in the disguise of helping the poor. The difference between public and private sector will become so blatant that a revolution will ensue. Every day we grow closer to this destination.

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tjefson

May-16-14 11:22 AM

judeye, have you seen the cost of living in San Francisco. The average home is a million dollars. Thank the public transit workers. Everytime I turn around they are strike for one thing or another. Its never enough. Just like here, people in public sector continue to see increases in pay despite their surroundings. Once again, the public unions will destroy this country. Interestingly, in Michigan, once people were not forced to pay union dues, 80% do not belong to the union anymore. Anyone with any common sense sees the time bomb ticking. Here we just wait for the explosion.

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Steiner

May-16-14 10:11 AM

another example of non working trickle up. hydrogenation. that process makes things stable. so, did anyone ask for in a store i want a hydrogenated raw naterial ? No. the chemists were tinkering and found that one could hydrogenate with platinum and palladium catalysts. here is the fun part, some of these precious metal catalysts are consumed in the process. slowly, guess what ? people have been it very trace amounts for a long time. I do not think any one went to the store and demanded platinum and palladium in certain food objects. they never heard of the stuff. but the chemists did. supply creates its own demand. trickle down is the way of the world, not trickle up. guess who has a lot of these thigs besides africa ? Putin !

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Steiner

May-16-14 9:51 AM

why do liberals believe what hey do ? we can learn from the father of modern liberalism, woodrow wilson.he was ignorant of the alphabet till 9 and could not read till he was eleven. he told people he was the slowest reader in the world. why? he was descendent from plantation owners, never known for their smarts.eli whitney made them rich. woodrow gave us the federal reserve system cuz they had something like that in europe. thats an original thought to a liberal. so we see acquired things are inherited in leberals, like hillary, cant see straight, double vision, cant think straight and she wants to be president ! the libs are shining as strong as ever.still think the govt can make wealth libs ? if that were true the plantation would have won the civil war and it didnt . increase the minimum wage ? poverty sugar coated.

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Steiner

May-16-14 9:17 AM

judeye, more proof that you are ignorant. the roaring 20s and other eras of prosperity were all done in a time of muchless govt involvement in th market place. the 30s, the single greatest mess up by the libs was a time of massive govt intervention. if wealth could be had by govt intervention, that was the time. the exact opposite happened. just like the gals thought prohibition would stop the violence. It raised violence and corruption to unprecedented levels. i guess yhou missed that fact again judeye. facts and judeye, they dont mix well.

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Steiner

May-16-14 9:12 AM

judey, you get confused again. the inner cities, all across america prove what you are saying is wrong. minimum wages destroy jobs. you pick a rich city that is unique. for the bulk of america and the world, high minimums detroy jobs. thats why the minimum wage was invented.to keep minorities out of the workforce. it has succeeded better than any jim crow plan of the libs ever imagined. judeye, you belive in myth after myth. thats why women only earn 77c on a dollar for men,. they just cant think straight. so judeye, in your mind the govt can just make everyone rich by law. you really are stupid are not you ?

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judeye

May-16-14 9:08 AM

oh...mistake..should read are 25 AND ABOVE....

those making minimal wage..

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Steiner

May-16-14 9:07 AM

judeye, you just enjoy getting things backwards. oil inflation in the 70s. hmmm, the world was awash in US dollars , all thanks to the liberals ! first it was LBJs war on poverty . then it was the Vietnam war, LBJs darling .Then Nixon, falling for keynesian economics gutted bretton woods. the arabs, slow to learn figured out that the money supply had been diluted in a manner of the german post WW1 inflation. so, to compensate they raised the price of oil. since gold and oil, even silver are all linked together, THEY ARE ONE !,prices rose. judey, i thank liberals everday for the massive disruptions they have caused in america. the women, ever stupid, just join the democartic bandwagon, like you and urge more. there was more real wealth in america in th days of less govt, but unfortunately judey, you believe in myths and lies. theat the govt invented everything, not true, but you insist on that belief.

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judeye

May-16-14 9:03 AM

tjjefson.... "Minimum wage jobs should be stepping stones for better jobs down the road."

Should be..but isn't..."According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics for 2011, just over half of all workers paid at or below the federal minimum wage were aged 25 " And surprise surprise..disproportionate number of workers earning minimal wage are WOMEN..many with children to support.

Also thought you might like this tidbit..

"The city with one of the highest minimum wages in the country has had faster job growth than any other big city over the past 10 years.

San Francisco's small businesses are growing faster than those of any other big city or the nation as a whole, according to new data from payroll-processor Paychex and research firm IHS. And this is happening despite the fact that, as of January 1, San Francisco's minimum wage was $10.74 an hour, higher than any state minimum wage or the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. "

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Steiner

May-16-14 8:58 AM

hey libs, ford was imitating the system of eli whitmey and his cotton gin, mass production by machine. before whitney the southern plantation owners, smart only in their own minds , dependent on slave energy and time, green energy for sure,renewable and sustainable, by war if necessary, those libs, to get the seeds out of cotton. when whitneys gin was invented it made a vast supply of cheap cotton available for textile use. once again the stupid liberals had to be helped by a northerner.It was this SUPPLY judey, that made cotton the polymer of choice for clothing . Prices fell, demand shot up. se once again the libs like high prices, just like tuition and taxes in our education system. judeye and paul, do you know any stupid liberals ? union folk ?it was the supply, not the demand that created the textile industry and no govt program or woman either.

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judeye

May-16-14 8:53 AM

PhilJulian..many different explanations for the inflation of 1970s. Oil embargo and instituting price controls on domestic oil were two primary reasons.

I have not read where raising the minimal wage was cited as a possible reason for the high inflation.

Which of course I remember...bought my first house at I think it was 11 1/2% rate! Can you imagine it that high these days! However, it was in NH so even with those high interest rates I made money in a short time by selling my house. Real estate was through the roof in the eighties. No wonder so many people invested in it. You could make a LOT of money very easily..that is until the bottom fell out.

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Steiner

May-16-14 8:23 AM

Hey Tj, you are confusing the liberals with facts. thats pretty much illegal now. some how entry level jobs are thought to be permanent ones. thats not how it was when i was in college. i worked at minimum wage jobs at a cannery. once i worked 14 days in a row, no time off. 10 of those days were 12 hour days.i was being exploited by the evil business man who were close friends of the family. i did not see machine guns on the roof, but i was told by my father. the boss is a close friend. dont mess up the job. he could be arrested for child abuse now for saying that. i since went on to chemicals, but the libs,judeye for sure, hate them too as they hate carbon. we have been reduced to menials by the liberals, to save the planet.

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Steiner

May-16-14 8:15 AM

more for the trickle up people like judeye. ford pioneered the use of vanadium steel, planetary gears and removable head gaskets . did the people clamor for a car and say i want these things in my car ? nope. duting the roaring 20s, industry pioneered many advances. guess what happened to union membership ? it plummeted. so much for the union fable.another thing that made fords success possible was the widespread application of Tesla power. the same electricity we use today. did you catch that judye, it was private enterprise that did it. no govt program and for the LWV, guess what ? No women !, you agitated for prohibition. so at the end of the day it was not trickle up but trickle down that worked and made everyone richer. its tough to accept this when you are a stupid liberal. wages went up becuz there was more wealth to be had. govt fiat will not do it, make wealth.

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Steiner

May-16-14 8:07 AM

hewy christopher, so ford was not a nice man because he had machine guns on his roof for use against strikers ! i guess you forgott thet the dems had made the KKK for use against repubs and blacks. you seem to have forgotten the civli was and jim crow . All invented by democrats. so any business man would think after seeing all the ABUSES by the democartic party , if it is ok for a democrat its ok for a business man.woodrow wilson called the auto the symbol of wealths arrogance. wilson also thought the world would run out of oil in his lifetime. lower costs ? the fine for speeding in detroit was 100 bucks ! Yes, those greedy dumb govt employees. while ford lowered costs the govt sure wanted its cut in fines. you libs just dont know history !

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tjefson

May-16-14 7:00 AM

Minimum wage jobs should be stepping stones for better jobs down the road. I worked minimum wage when it was $2 an hour, pumping gas at 33 cents a gallon. Then out of high school, I took another minimum wage job at $2 an hour at a lumber mill to get more hours. Minimum wage was $2 an hour at what seemed like forever at the time. I decided I didn't want to make a career at the lumber mill when I seen a cam kick back and take out a man's row of upper teeth who was operating the saw. That is when I joined the Navy.

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tjefson

May-15-14 11:43 PM

The miss by Wal Mart tells a story. First, the stock dropped 2 - 2.5% on the news and had a ripple impact on the market as a whole, seeing all sectors decline. The story it tells is the people making $20 - $25 have not seen an increase in pay since BHO was elected. These are facts, wages have been stagnant, especially if the public sector is removed, then wages have actually decreased. Its supply and demand. Yes, the shareholders drive the market, but the largest shareholders are the pension plans. Its hard to argue against excessive profits when the people who scream the loudest are the benefactors of those profits. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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tjefson

May-15-14 11:31 PM

Though the author means well, everyone knows where the road to good intentions leads. Making minimum wage $15 an is a little removed from reality. A person could have worked in a company for 10 years and earned his or her way up to $13 an hour. Is it fair to raise this person and the person who started last week up to $15 an hour. Not only this, but now the employer has seen much more that just difference in the wage increase effect the bottom line. Suddenly, the FICA employer match has increased significantly. The unemployment tax at a state and federal level is based on wages so this expense increases. That hamburger at McDonald's is going to cost double what people are paying now. Ironically, Wal Marts earnings came out today and missed an already diminished estimate by Wall Street. Before earnings season, Wall Street had lowered the bar for almost all companies blaming extremely cold weather for the decrease. This is where the low end shoppers go to make their purchases. cont.

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