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What has happened to our values?

July 30, 2014

When sitting at my desk to write this commentary I am bombarded with questions of which I find myself lacking in answers....

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American

Aug-02-14 4:50 PM

I think he is just trying to impress dudeye to show her he is as far left as she is. Problem is they don't impress anyone else. OK maybe Marcia but she is there along side them anyway.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 4:33 PM

I am not even sure that is the party line there American. It sounds like someone took a dump in his mouth and now he is just spewing it out.

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American

Aug-02-14 4:14 PM

Spoken like a true progressive TTT. You go ahead and swallow that party line BS Obama and company feed you. It's all you have. You are so far left you better watch out because soon the only direction left for you to turn will be right.

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Truthteller

Aug-02-14 3:55 PM

Nathan & American are so off base, I'm not even sure their base is on this planet. Logic check--if everyone who works hard opens a Starbucks, well--mayhem. Bill Gates disagrees--he thinks the wealthy have too much and should pay more. No CEO ever works as hard as those under him, and often, those jobs are from being wealthy already. Lastly, it isn't jealousy. It's basic, basic!! fairness, the way it was after the War until the Reagan Era of Destruction. You two couldn't be more wrong. About everything, basically.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 1:26 PM

The problem with the WNY mentality is that a person sees something they don't like, then they get everyone else in a tezzie until that person gives up or moves away. I see it when I go home and I see it on this board... The whole I am "against everyone and for no one" or the "I am a free thinker" is counter productive and doesn't allow for any ingenuity or imagination to thrive. ********in everyone's Cherrios.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 1:16 PM

He is sharing his wealth with his employees by giving them an opportunity to work for him, earn a living, climb a corporate ladder, or possibly learn to do it better and open up their own Starbucks franchise or possibly a whole new concept coffee shop.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 1:14 PM

So Truthteller you are jealous that the CEO of Starbucks makes so much money but you lack identifying the hard work, the corporate ladder, the politics of it all, the support from a board of trustees, the support of american investors, cause you feel as though there is wealth redistribution upward? That's crazy talk.

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American

Aug-02-14 1:12 PM

What you can't seem to understand is I don't care how much money or things ANYONE has. I didn't earn what they have or I don't own the corporations they do so it isn't mine to have. I don't care if bill gates makes $100M a year and I make $20K a year. Let them keep what they make same as I will keep mine. And I'm satisfied just like it is. Not jealous if the wealthy at all.

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Truthteller

Aug-02-14 12:34 PM

American, you have no idea how much anyone's income is except the famous people you've referred to. And socialism is NOT what you've described. Neither is income redistribution. In terms of health insurance--look at what isn't covered that we in the 99 % pay out of pocket. That's because of treatments denied so the shareholders and CEO's can have gobs and gobs. THAT is income redistribution--upward. And you can be sure those people you defend so loudly have A LOT more money than Judeye. And think about it--24 hours in everyone's day. Does the CEO of Starbucks do all the work? NO! It's the line people.

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Truthteller

Aug-02-14 12:30 PM

I'm with Judeye. In my many forays through Ontario, I have yet to hear a single Canadian wish they were us or that they had our healthcare system.

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Truthteller

Aug-02-14 12:29 PM

American, there are waiting lists here too. You can't even get into the dentist within 2 months.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 10:55 AM

What is dangerous with the Liberal mentality is that since they did not earn that money themselves, they did not have any vested interest in working, sweating, worrying, and succeeding in growing it. They don't realize how tough it is to do all that... they think some union helped that business owner generate it... well they didn't. That person can decide best what they will do with their money... not the government and certainly not the people of WNY.

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American

Aug-02-14 10:22 AM

And if you had 1/2 a brain you would know there is a way to share links in here as many of us have done it. All you have to do is pay attention to posters other then yourself and Marcia. As far as the ACA is concerned that is not healthcare at all but mandatory insurance with asinine clauses to it. Like me having to pay for maternity insurance or my adult "child" staying on it 6 years longer then they should. Teach them responsibility for themselves and not that they should get a free ride.

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American

Aug-02-14 10:16 AM

Well judeye I can pretty well be certain that your income is higher then mine therefore we have income inequality and you should share it with me on an equal basis. Sell you home and share the profits equally. And I know Obama and Cuomo make more then I do and I don't see them sharing it with me.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 9:38 AM

I tend to disagree with Canadian health insurance. I have heard nothing but negative from them in terms of the wait times, etc.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 9:35 AM

Here's a fact... WNY is going under. Why? Because of bloated unions, high taxes, lack of jobs, and poor leadership from the Baby Boomers. Wealth is to be generated, not handed out. Wealth is something you earn, not received. Wealth is something that can be shared, by that individual to charity... not taken away by a bureaucrat who thinks he knows what is best. Let the churches and charities do what they do best, give me incentives to help, as I have always done, and then give me the freedom to make a business work, create jobs and share my wealth of knowledge in how to make money.

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judeye

Aug-02-14 8:41 AM

Steiner..and you are so smart you cannot even look up income inequality in the USA.

Gosh wished we could share links to make it easier for you.

All you have to do is google it. Read the facts. Learn something rather than just spouting off more insulting comments that lack something called FACTS.

There really is a difference between a fact and an opinion. Something too many fail to comprehend.

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PhilJulian

Aug-02-14 8:40 AM

JUDEYE - I tend to agree with you on Canadian health care. I have discussed this with several Canadian couples and they all said they would never trade the Canadian system for the American system. Health care in America is a cash cow for insurance companies, hospital organizations and drug companies. They not only control our government, they feed huge sums of money into advertising to brainwash the American public.

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judeye

Aug-02-14 8:37 AM

American..you do understand SINGLE PAYER is what many of us liberals wanted, and many of us still are fighting for. It was the gop who refused to consider such a system. So we compromised for a public option. However, they fought that one as well. So that is how we ended up with ACA which although is much better than nothing, it falls well short of the medical health care insurance that we all should receive.

I just never understood why my taxes pay for health insurance for govt workers..that I am not allowed to also buy into.

Have you looked into how much money we could save if all of us were under one health care system? Like those offered to federal employees.

Is not much of our County budget going to Medicaid. What if that were eliminated how much would that save us? How much lower would our costs be in we had a single payer in NY? We can do it. bills have been in our state legislation..we just need to make them move it forward

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judeye

Aug-02-14 8:30 AM

joew...do you have any idea how long you have to wait here in the USA for the same prostate surgery?

The Canadians who come here for health care are not coming due to wait lines, it is for specific doctors and treatments. Just like many of go out of state...Cleveland Clinic for one...for treatment from leading physicians who specialize in what ails us. So do the Canadians come here for specific doctors and treatments.

Try talking to a few about their health care system. Few have many negatives to say.

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Nathan

Aug-02-14 8:26 AM

Let's ask them Truthteller. Then we can ship them there. My bet, is that they would want to stay put.

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Steiner

Aug-02-14 7:35 AM

hey Tt, the socialist bogey man, he aint so bad after all. tell that to the Poles since the USSR broke up. tell that to the venezuelans , they have oil shortages and even car production has halted. tell us of the wonders socialism created ! i will showe you famine and death. the socialists have to do something to make up for their utter stupidity so they tax other people. so how did america get to be so great when there was no income tax for you libs to steal money ? morals, the frst thuing built in early america was a church. phil and dk have it right. when i grew upo, mom was home when i was returning from school. no drugs, premarital sex frowned on. very few unwed mothers. the libs threw all that out and called it freedom !

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joew

Aug-02-14 7:00 AM

Next time anyone heads down Cleveland way,stop in at the Cleveland Clinic. Canadian license plates abound. No they are not just visiting. My wife's cousin waited 6 months for prostrate surgery in GB!

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Steiner

Aug-02-14 6:59 AM

stupid ,stupid judeye and her income inequality thing. hey blockhead, america was founded by rich people. many people who wanted to be here came as indentured srevants. there was NO income tax. you could keep all the money you made. corporations IMPROVED life for the masses. Prices FELL, food supply increased. Labor by humans reduced . Judeye you are so stupid, stupid .. So what happened, the socialists, like judeye saw how utterly stupid they were. why did nt they think of all the inventions america had seen from the civil war till the depression? Answer , they were stupid like judeye or paul and his trucking comments !hey stupid paul, thats how the pipeline got to be so needed. the teamsters always went on strike for hauling oil. so, build a pipeline.paul is so stupid.

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joew

Aug-02-14 6:55 AM

If you would have read the article truthteller,you would have noticed that countries you cited in your list were included,not just third world countries.

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