Yes! And, I might add, a HUGE Christmas present to a lot of employees and to the city tax payers!
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noting surprises us, unless there are no strings attached, when it comes to government , now if we were to receive a tax rebate check, for a life time of over paying NYS taxes of all types, now that would be "surprising"
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Christopher says present, we say "Pandora's box", taxpayers will get increased spending, fee's, and less service ,"wow" what a great present, just like getting wacked with a paddle "thank you, may we have another"
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Yes I was. especially after seeing a whole lot of grid work done. Wires and poles where there were no wires and poles. Claims that the southtowns were hooked to the tonawanda plant. What a pleasant suprise. hey rumblefish, do ya thnk the Koch bros had something to do with it ?
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Steiner:@@###$#$$%$%$%%%%%%%%^^^^&&&**&&^^%%$$##@$$%$#@@&*(&^&&??><>>>?""::?<<<?>?>$#@@##$$$% your welcome
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Jump and holler when your electricity bill goes down. Unless you believe politicians you can do it now.
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What Gov Cuomo did was "temporarily" bail out Dunkirk, and we should all be thankful, but there's still more to do. Without the Gov's help, the city would've immediately started laying off employees & cut services. The schools would've been forced to do the same, and property taxes would've soared thru the roof!
Yes, all is well in our small city (for now), but we still rely way too much on NRG's annual tax payments to maintain excessive spending on costs for public services & schools. The city & schools MUST find ways to significantly lower these costs, or identify new sources of revenue. If not, then the support that Gov Cuomo has shown us on Sunday merely delays the inevitable. We MUST address the heavy reliance on NRG, or the impact of its closing will never change.
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no one else will say it Cuomo is a smart politician, gets to be a hero locally with a (15) million dollar investment, that will pay off with at least a 20 fold deposit into state bank account(taxes) what was it Honest Abe said about "fooling people"
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Surprised? No! I can't imagine any politicial turning his back on a $150 million privaye sector investment. What surprised me was the scaled back version of the original $500 million plan. Obviously government bowed to pressure either from environmentalists or National Grid and we might never know the full story but in the final analysis the area lost out on $350 million of investment along with hundreds of new jobs. We might be much better off if government would jusr get out of the way!
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hey hadenuf, oil was made cheaoer during the reagan years by money policy. An inverion of the carter years. oil prices fell, Unemployment even among city folk fell too. Money policy can alter the prices we pay. it is not just the greed of corporations as it frequently mentioned here. By the way, anyone see rumblefish going bonkers ?
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I would have been surprised had it gone the other way simply because it would have flown in the face of the nationwide media blitz that "NY is open for business"! A major black mark. I have to agree with Captain and his comments as well. It is only a "Stay" and people now need to put in place(elect) those that will make decisions to get the fiscal house(s)in order.
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"elect" those that will make decisions to get financial house(s) in order, and Steiner who resembles the remark "bonkers"
"elect those that will get financial house(s)) in order, and Steiner has the nerve to call us bonkers
City fathers are so pleased, now that they don't have to be frugal with taxpayers dollars, it government like this that makes us glad that we are orphans
Just remember Cuomo does not have the power to repower NRG. That task belongs to the Public Service Commission. All Cuomo did is say the plant will convert. Let's wait and see before we wet out pants.
I was wrong all along and glad I was. Never thought we would see NRG in operation. Even though we bash the observer myself included they did a spectacular job keeping everyone informed and used their own resourses to rally the community behind this effort. NICE JOB OBSERVER!
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hey hadenuf, do you think cuomo would be so stupid to show up in dunkirk on a cold winters day if this was not a done deal ? gracious , i marvel at you.hey rumblefish, cuomo had to do this. NY has NOT partaken in the US fracking boom at all. Fact ignored by you libs over and over. cronig thinks fracking a govt invention I bet.
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hey rumblefish, you missed my previous comments on this about sewer plants and other plants points east of us told to shut down to conserve power. This usually happens in the summer.not winter. I can guess then that the margin of excess capacity is getting thin. Any plant failure or problem will now cause a blackout. thanks libs !Co2 fears got you down ? Fear of running out of hydrocarbons ? mental illness thrives in liberals.
hey rumblefish, what was that outburst of characters. the grid work was real. I saw National grid trucks for years before this. even off road vehicles towing cables and poles behind them. Poles and connections where there was none for 50 years. yes 50 YEARS. Try and understand life rumblefish.Science upset you much ? observation of phenomena bother you ? any more outbursts ? end of the world maybe ?
Steiner, for a "supposed" genius you can or won't understand the obvious, like all "one trick ponies" your redundant posts, say what we have speculated all along, one dimensional and tunnel vision aided thinking, and all it takes is two nouns put together to prove our point you are a perfect example of the classic "oxymoron"
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Steiner:@@##!$#%^&&&(**&^%$#&(()(*><<>:><>::><&^%%$#$@$%^& your welcome
as for the decision: who ever said that a bargain is had to find, we find that's not correct in this case buying the "love and admiration of of a city of sheep who have for as long as we care to remember been "led down the path of total economic destruction" for a paltry $15 million, now that's a bargain
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Let me put it this way. NRG is a very successful cash rich energy provider and they were willing to pump $500 million into the Dunkirk plant. They could spend $500 million like you spend $2.00 for a loaf of bread. So, why does this matter? We in Dunkirk had a rare opportunity to secure a massive private sector investment and the state screwed it up. An investment of that magnitude would have put the city back on the map with good paying jobs and an unprecedented local economic stimulant. We may have just missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime and I still have not heard a good explanation as to why the project was scaled back.
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Under the present limitations of this agreement it comes as no surprise at all.
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we can see the "giddiness" of a hollow victory is wearing off already we wonder when all the cheers will change to boos, we have said all along the few will benefit from this and the many like will be left "in the trick bag", but time will tell as it always does
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